[Buff] Ghost Scepter

[kanzakill]

The current:

Originally Posted by Ghost Form

Makes you unable to attack or be attacked, but take 44% extra damage from spells
Ends if you become magic immune, and will have no effect if you are already magic immune
Lasts 4 seconds and has a 25 second cooldown

Proposal:
You can be attacked, but won't lose any hp.

Reasons:
- To be more different from Pugna's Decrepify
- To be used in more ways
- Mindgame
- GS isn't often used
- GS doesn't improve tanking potential that much

Problems:
- Imba?
- Codeable?

Thoughts?

[Monochromatic]

You have regular movement speed with GS.

IMO. I don't think ghost scepter is used for tanking, its for escaping or stopping a attack. Its more of a situational item. I get it whenever I need it. (Like when I'm clockwerk trying to gank a jugg while hes jungling, it can really counter omnislash)

(example, troll is stunlocking you and you use GS, he can't attack you anymore.
Yurnero is omnislashing you in a 1v1 and you use GS to negate it)

null vote. (so you sorta want it like abaddon's aphrotic shield except no explode damage?)

[Gazar-]

I would prefer a slight buff by decreasing the gold costs (to 1200) or by increasing the stats you gain by it. + 10 would be fine I think.
It is a very situational item. You do not get it often, but it can be useful sometimes.

[kanzakill]

Originally Posted by Monochromatic

You have regular movement speed with GS.

That's a difference of course, in which GS have one effect less

IMO. I don't think ghost scepter is used for tanking, its for escaping or stopping a attack. Its more of a situational item. I get it whenever I need it. (Like when I'm clockwerk trying to gank a jugg while hes jungling, it can really counter omnislash)

With this remake it still can counter omnislash and it can be used for tanking too

(so you sorta want it like abaddon's aphrotic shield except no explode damage?)

Yes, but it only applies to normal attacks, not spells.

Originally Posted by Gazar-

It is a very situational item. You do not get it often, but it can be useful sometimes.

This is just a buff to make it less situational + more useful + used more often

[uo111]

What about all the things the proc on attack and do magical damage/stun/slow.

and the orb effects that do pure damage.

seems kinda useless. I don't oppose it, but I can't think why, especially if it would be a pain to code being able to attack, but not proc.

[NoThlnG]

I just think Ghost Scepter should be make from recipes not a basic item

But, the skill is already fine.

Sry, T-Down. Pugna's decrifty is more for damaging enemies while this is for surviving...

[kanzakill]

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

Sry, T-Down. Pugna's decrifty is more for damaging enemies while this is for surviving...

What part of this buff goes against surviving man?

[genehmster]

Originally Posted by uo111

What about all the things the proc on attack and do magical damage/stun/slow.

and the orb effects that do pure damage.

yeh, what about them?

[kanzakill]

Upon using Ghost Scepter:
Create a dummy unit with 1000000hp, attach it to the user or make it move with the user.
When someone attempt to attack the user (not spells), make that one attack the dummy unit.
Remove the dummy unit and the trigger after the affect wears off.

=> No damage to the user
And stop worrying about those things, stick to the idea men

[Dead Vigilante]

Oh well, pretty much the same, but T-up I guess ( if I even understood it right ).

[IAmTheSpoon]

Nah. This doesn't need a buff, but rather some follow-up item like Talisman Evasion has a follow-up item of Butterfly.
I'd rather go that way.

[Kanashimi]

Pratically will stay the same in terms, but would fit greatly for mind games.
But, until i see a trigger that could do that i think is pretty unmakeable ^^

[kanzakill]

Originally Posted by Kanashimi

Pratically will stay the same in terms, but would fit greatly for mind games.
But, until i see a trigger that could do that i think is pretty unmakeable ^^

Hm, ...

Originally Posted by kanzakill

Upon using Ghost Scepter:
Create a dummy unit with 1000000hp, attach it to the user or make it move with the user.
When someone attempts to attack the user (not spells), make that one attack the dummy unit.
Remove the dummy unit and the trigger after the affect wears off.

=> No damage to the user

I think

[gnaLor]

Change is small and senseless, nobody will attack you when he sees the grafics.
If you even want to remove the grafics.. even more tdown, then it will not even be a bit of a ghost scepter, just a +10000 armor buff like omni ulti.

[StrudseN]

Never used GS before. cuz i doesn't see it's usefull when you are getting ganked, and they spam spells on you. You will be dead within seconds. So im with ya!

[HELLRAISER]

If you can still be attacked, wont effects proc? like perma stun?

[kanzakill]

Originally Posted by gnaLor

Change is small and senseless, nobody will attack you when he sees the grafics.

Small: yes
Senseless:

If you even want to remove the grafics.. even more tdown, then it will not even be a bit of a ghost scepter, just a +10000 armor buff like omni ulti.

Originally Posted by StrudseN

Never used GS before. cuz i doesn't see it's usefull when you are getting ganked, and they spam spells on you. You will be dead within seconds. So im with ya!

I think you are not really getting my thinking

Originally Posted by HELLRAISER

If you can still be attacked, wont effects proc? like perma stun?

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