the global mute is ridiculous. even after their fix after a week/halfweek of nonsense, it's still crazy:
"I've been playing 5+ games a day. Believe me, I have some really good games, and some really bad games.
Today, I got muted. For what, I don't know.
I didn't swear. I didn't use racial slurs. All I did was tell my team when I was ganking, to defend, to push, etc.
I criticized inefficient and stupid builds like a wraithband, tangos start. Mind you, I normally play in High MMR.
Nothing out of the ordinary.
And yet, I'm muted for an undefined period of time.
Often, people simply report you, and swear at you afterwards.
But because I've already used all of my reports this week since I've played easily over 15 games, I can do NOTHING.
The mute feature is there for a reason. These mute bans are an outrage.
And the forums have not had this kind of outcry to an update in ages.
This is a sign of Valve turning the wrong direction.
This policy is entirely against the consumer.
There are no appeals and there is no vetting.
You literally can pick up Dota 2 invites for a rare a piece, create three accounts, and just report people you don't like.
Within 12 hours, you'll have them muted.
For what? Only Valve seems to know.
If this is some campaign against 'cyber bullying' then I can't help but think that Valve has its priorities completely out of order.
The Dota community is centered about a game that gives a player extremely high and low valence emotions.
It's natural to be angry and to express that.
This system promotes an artificial politeness.
It is unnatural, it is fake.
People who are muted cannot communicate effectively in any high level match, especially if they are solo queuing versus a coordinated via voice stack or small parties.
You cast your ulti in a teamfight late because of the cooldown? Too bad, your team doesn't know that.
Reported for throwing. Enjoy your mute extension." -
daed
"The chat wheel does not solve any problems. If you are in a very high skill game then you typically need to type an in depth description of what you are about to do during a gank or teamfight.
People are getting complacent because the mute bans are being enforced less frequently.
That does not keep mute bans from being a terrible system that simply does not improve the game!
The only reason people accept the mute ban system is because they think that Valve should have the right to police their players.
Well guess what? Dota is a community made game, and if Valve wants to cash in on that community then they should respect it." -
mcheeawai
"im just amazed how some people can be this incompetent just because they did not get muted or reported. First of all, what you guys need to understand is that some people are more passionate then others, and some get stuck with different players and have different personalities.
For instance, if someone comes out and calls me something like a newb or any other offensive name, i would not report him because i feel like first of all that is super childish because i chose to play an ONLINE game with no RATING meaning that you can swear and do all sorts of crap, which is what i agreed to by playing online.
Second, you are playing with 9 strangers in a long 5v5, this is a competition of-course people will talk trash, of-course people will get mad and butthurt and brag and do all this stuff, this is how the world works. Look at any sport, take NBA for example, you see players openly talking trash every time after a basket, assist, some are even encourage to show emotion to get their team playing better, EMOTION is what makes us human.
This report system is the dumbest system ever made, how someone can think that this is a good idea is beyond me, in no way shape or form is this remotely helpful EVER. You shouldn't be able to report anyone, at-least not with few simple clicks without going in GREAT detail on what happened and when(which then should be reviewed by a person to see if its true or not).
Reports solve nothing... If a guy is griefing you and decided to buy 1000 cur's to feed to another team, then what is you reporting him going to do? He will go to low pro? Cool and his buddies will report you too and you will meet him there in 15 minutes? Its just pointless, it does nothing but start more problems then it solves.
The best idea is to take it out completely or as ive always said make it alot more informative as to what you are reporting people and alot more complicated process that requires you more then 3 simple clicks to affect someones game play experience." -
TomTomNT
"Lucky. My friend got banned for playing Medusa. No he did not flame. The guy said in chat he reported him for playing Medusa.
I personally don't think I deserved mine, as I was trying really hard to be nice, but some things I said were in a bit of a gray area.
I dunno, but alot of people are really not getting banned fairly. I just think Valve should give power to players to deal with people who ruin games, and fix the problem for themselves if possible. If not, make it reportable. We do not need this system. We have a mute button." -
4o4Hellfire
"Everytime I report someone, they get muted. But I usually only report the people who rage or start fights on the team.
Only 1 report left. Not muted yet myself. This is interesting. I see two problems with the system:
1- Amount of reports per week is too low if you play a lot. Otherwise it's fine.
2- Abuse. It seems like people can report me for simply not liking me. Sure, people generally won't report me, but if they decide to gang up and do it because I didn't build a certain item build, they can. Where are the measures against that?" -
KitsuneSefam
"The problem is people are not getting muted for 'raging' as you know it. They are getting muted for 'raging' by being ignored by people. In other words their allies are merely being incompetent and they try to communicate 'how to do it better' and then they are simply ignored. At some point they might decide to tell opponents, 'bad game' for no cooperation and the opponents in their fit of pride in feeling like it was a 'good game' even though clearly their opponents let them win will report people for simply being honest." -
SanKakU
"So much for their Fixpatch, ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfz51XYmZ-o
The muting is absolutly sick as is!" -
3qual
"I get the ''Thanks for improving the community'' very often and 90% of the people i report didnt do anything that is a reportable offense." -
iamVo0dO
"Played 1600 games of Dota 2.
Held a 'teach a new player how to dota' group with 80 members actively learning.
Never been in low priority, never had any bans.
Only 3 abandons out of those 1600 games due to power shortage.
Don't rage, don't flame. Just some occasional F and C word, not directed at anyone particular.
Tried my best to be as polite and helpful in PlayDota as possible (check my history).
Got chat-muted because I got matched into a 4 man stack of Russian players in captains mode and they disliked my picks = 4 reports." -
Chaqu
"Kids using their 4 weekly reports for minor things like "easy" instead of using them on real flamers who make this community toxic. If you can't accept a bit "trash talk" that happens in every competitive game/sport, something like "easy" then god damn it you are one little wuss.
I never do offensive gg, easy and similar... hmmm, I can't remember last time I used /all chat but it never bothers me when opponents do a little "trash talk" after they win." -
Rainheart
"For people wondering if I berated my team, no I didn't.
In that game, I recall saying 3 nuggets of wisdom to my team.
I told DK to get a Mjollnor and BKB to deal with Meepo late game.
I told Storm Spirit to stop dying, and made it explicit that he should avoid getting stunned and should focus all his damage onto Lina.
I told Rubick to stop eating stuns.
What happened late is the enemy team said 'push in, we don't def'. I went to push the t3 tower (with Aegis in hand), and they all jumped me and popped my Aegis. They lied on all chat in order to try and comeback. After double raxing, I said "no def", then "but def?", then said "easy" to tease them for trying to win in such a low brow way." -
Straylian
"Then you would be abusing the report system which is why no part of it should be automated. The communication abuse report option is for things like death threats, walls of text spam, severe racism, etc, not for reporting someone because they hurt your feelings by saying the game was easy" -
Jones
"I report everyone that says easy, no matter how "easy" the game was." -
TheWilder
"you know what's even better, you're not even good enough to have programmed in a legible timer because I'm apparently banned for %s1 hours. Valve time right? If you were any other company you'd have all been fired for poor quality workmanship and undelivered promises. You know who else used to be a big successful company? Creative Labs." -
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well, i guess that's enough for now!
i'll write another blog later if i see some more good stuff.