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Old 10-23-2011, 03:36 PM   #1
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Darkrai

The Dream maker


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Version 1.3


Darkrai is a hero who is similar to pokemon series.He is a a purely disable and semi-supporter hero.He might fill the killer role while his enemies are in sleep condition.He signature skill dark void had been brought to here.Making enemies sleep and strike them through their dream.While nightmare is what slept foes will suffer,a horrible nightmare may make one scare and leaves them fear in the dark.





Strength17+1.8Starting Hitpoint473
Agility19+2.1Starting Armor2.71
Intelligence23+2.3Starting Manapoint299

AffiliationScourge
Damage45-58
Movement Speed300
Attack Range460
Attack Animation0.4/0.5
Casting Animation0.2/0.4
Base Attack Time1.7
Missile Speed800
Sight Range800 at day / 1800 at night



Skills and Abilities


Skill 1 : Nightmare Aura



Ability Type : Passive
Targeting Type:N/A
Ability Hotkey: E
Mana Cost:N/A
Cooldown:N/A

Darkrai always create a horrible nightmare aura nearby him.Every time Darkrai received 300 burst damage from a instant or single target spell,he will release an aura that put enemy to sleep for 1.5seconds.All slept unit will not able to awake if Darkrai is in their sight of range until their sleep duration end.The slept units will received their pain once their woke up,dealing damage within a duration in the form of DPS.

Level1: Damage received are equally divided into 7seconds dps.
Level2: Damage received are equally divided into 6seconds dps.
Level3: Damage received are equally divided into 5seconds dps.
Level4: Damage received are equally divided into 4seconds dps.

Notes:
  • As long as Darkrai is in their sight of range, all slept unit will not be awake once they received damage form a hero.
  • Wont override with other sleep effect from hero: Atropos and Naga siren.

    Explanation:
    This is a passive aura , that will keep enemies in dream, maximize the sleep duration.Allies would totally take the opportunity to kill off all slept enemies hero.



Skill 2 : Dark void



Ability Type : Active
Targeting Type:Point
Ability Hotkey: D
Mana Cost:80/100/120/140mana
Cooldown:15/14/13/12seconds
Cast Range:400/500/600/700

Darkrai fires a crimson purple and black ball in his hands at an area.When the enemies are hit, a crimson or pink bubble appears around the enemies's body and makes them fall asleep.

Level1: Put the enemies sleep for 1.5s.Dealing 100hp upon impact.
Level2: Put the enemies sleep for 2.4s.Dealing 160hp upon impact.
Level3: Put the enemies sleep for 3.3s.Dealing 220hp upon impact.
Level4: Put the enemies sleep for 4.2s.Dealing 280hp upon impact.

Notes:
  • Wont override with other sleep effect from hero: Atropos and Naga siren.
  • Projectile has 1000 speed.
  • Area of effect is 400.
  • Slept unit will be awake if received any damage from hero.

    Explanation:
    Will be added later.




Skill 3 : Shadow walk



Ability Type : Active
Targeting Type:Unit
Ability Hotkey: W
Mana Cost:N/A
Cooldown:60s

Darkrai can become a shadow and escape from the danger or silently follow a unit's shadow.He able to bounce on another units if they are close enough.While in shadow, Darkrai cant attack and movement dominated by the shadow's owner.If the duration end, Darkrai forced out from one's shadow.Grant a subskill,Shade Force

Level1: Bounce area is 400.Last for 15seconds.Cast range is 300.
Level2: Bounce area is 500.Last for 20seconds.Cast range is 400.
Level3: Bounce area is 600.Last for 25seconds.Cast range is 500.
Level4: Bounce area is 700.Last for 30seconds.Cast range is 600.


Subskill: Shade Force


Targeting Type: Instant
Mana Cost:50/60/70/80
Cooldown:N/A

Darkrai force himself out of one's shadow before the duration ends, dragging the shared shadow out of his real body if he is an enemy.When he lost his shadow, all his allied shared sight is lose for 5s/7s/9s/11s.

Notes:
  • While in shadowing mode, Darkrai wont able to receive any damage.He also cant attack or cast any spell.
  • There are some animation which will show the Darkrai shadow moving in day , but hard to notice on night.
  • Shadow move at a speed of 2000.

    Explanation:
    Once cast on a unit, Darkrai will "fuse" into one shadow,follow him silently and he able to bounce on others closer unit.This is an escape mechanism and as well as ganker mechanism.



Skill 4 : Dream World



Ability Type : Active
Targeting Type:Point
Ability Hotkey: B
Mana Cost:100/130/160 mana
Cooldown:100s
Cast Range:Global

Darkrai convert his dream to realistic form.Creating a barrier that keep expanding to maximum size around him.While due to the unstable dimension,the dream world will release a pulse of darkness that reducing resistances of affected units within the barrier every 3.5seconds.All slept unit inside the barrier will share their pain together.Last for 15seconds.

Level1: AoE is 5000.Share 10% damage to connected enemies.Reducing 10% physical and magical resistant for each pulse.
Level2: Aoe is 6000.Share 20% damage to connected enemies.Reducing 15% physical and magical resistant for each pulse.
Level3: Aoe is 7000.Share 30% damage to connected enemies.Reducing 20% physical and magical resistant for each pulse.

Notes:
  • Shared damage type is mixed.
  • Share the damage after the reduction from resistances .
  • The barrier will grow until maximum Aoe within 3seconds.
  • Barrier provide sight to Darkrai.
  • Darkrai can use him spell(without caring it cast range) while in the barrier and only can target the enemies in the barrier.
  • The damage will be shared to all connector if the enemy being attacked or spelled is asleep.
  • A global sound would be played ,like "Dream World Connect" if the spell successfully landed.
  • Sleep effect will not stack with others sleep effect from Darkrai or Atropos and Naga siren.

    Explanation:
    Darkrai create a dream world which connect to real world.The dream world will release a dark pulse every seconds,which will cause enemies to reduce resistance.





Next Version Needs
  • Need suitable and nice icon.
  • BG,hero intro and skill description should be polished.
  • Inspire me some ideas on ultimate skill.
  • Any Suggestions and Critcisms are welcomed. Also tell what you like and don't like about this hero.
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:37 PM   #2
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:36 AM   #3
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Just wanna dl Ai map and i saw your suggestion again.

Would give you some review after i finished playing that map.

Anyway, nice template.
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:51 AM   #4
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^ Thx...Will wait for your comments...^^
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:59 AM   #5
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hurmmm does sleep spell from Atropos and Naga Siren overrides this hero damaging capability?
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:02 PM   #6
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hurmmm does sleep spell from Atropos and Naga Siren overrides this hero damaging capability?
hmm..didnt notice before...Imho, i think it does not override with each others.
Anyways, thx for pointing out some flaws on it.
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:36 PM   #7
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Nightmare - It is kinda original, but I don't really like it that much TBH, because it does nothing when enemy is not asleep. One question though: What if the enemy is targeted by other sleeps(i.e Bane's Nightmare, Naga's Song, etc.), would this skill affect the sleeping unit(s)?

Dark Void - Kinda cool and original, though I don't quite get how the aoe sleep works. I also see forced synergy.

Shadow Walk - Best of all 4 of your skills. Balanced, original and unique, though I highly recommend to put another sub-skill that instantly end the ability.

Dream Bond - The second skill I liked, though you really need more mana cost to make it balanced.

Overall - The hero is kinda cool and awesome TBH. I liked 50% of the skill although he just needs some nerfing and buffing. If you like, can you reply to Slade?
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Default Re: Darkrai, The Dream Maker

do you know sleep unit will become invulnerable for a moment? dunno if hp removal go through invulnerability
will nightmare castable on enemy sleep from atropos(siren not count target fully invulnerable)
will ppl sleep from the ulti wake up when attacked by any of your ally? if they not awake then his ulti is too powerful
how do you bounce from one unit to other?
i can give 5/10 - 8/10 depending on the answer
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Old 10-25-2011, 09:34 AM   #9
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Nightmare - It is kinda original, but I don't really like it that much TBH, because it does nothing when enemy is not asleep. One question though: What if the enemy is targeted by other sleeps(i.e Bane's Nightmare, Naga's Song, etc.), would this skill affect the sleeping unit(s)?

Ya...it does nothing to enemies who didnt sleep.But it dealt alot of damage if they fall asleep.About the Bane and Naga sleep effect, this skill cant affected them unless them fall asleep by dark void.Maybe i can buff abit on this skill.

Dark Void - Kinda cool and original, though I don't quite get how the aoe sleep works. I also see forced synergy.

First, you cast it. Then you can target on an area by casting the spell again.It is a targeting ground type if only if you cast it before 2seconds(This has low Aoe). If you cast after 2 seconds, this skill will instantly cast with high Aoe effect around Darkrai.

Shadow Walk - Best of all 4 of your skills. Balanced, original and unique, though I highly recommend to put another sub-skill that instantly end the ability.

I did put a skill: Shade Force. This skill is used to end the shadowing effect.

Dream Bond - The second skill I liked, though you really need more mana cost to make it balanced.

Thx...would change it later...

Overall - The hero is kinda cool and awesome TBH. I liked 50% of the skill although he just needs some nerfing and buffing. If you like, can you reply to Slade?

Sure , if i'm free enough ^^
Anyways thx for your suggestion...^^

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do you know sleep unit will become invulnerable for a moment? dunno if hp removal go through invulnerability
will nightmare castable on enemy sleep from atropos(siren not count target fully invulnerable)will ppl sleep from the ulti wake up when attacked by any of your ally? if they not awake then his ulti is too powerful
how do you bounce from one unit to other?
i can give 5/10 - 8/10 depending on the answer

I should note that nightmare cant cast on atropos and naga sleeped units.And all slept units will be awake once they receive damage from hero.
About the Shadow walk, if you cast on a unit , he will follow his shadow thus darkrai now is totally invulnerable until he come out from shadow.After that, if you want to bounce on another unit which is close enough, you can click on him then Darkrai will move to the targeted unit.(This is bouncing)


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Just want to point it out that Nightmare name already used by Atropos 3rd.
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^ Lol...thx anyways, will change it little bit on next version.
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^ Lol...thx anyways, will change it little bit on next version.
my suggestion: change it to dream eater?

another question: the ulti share damage from your allies too? or just yourself? i think it would be too op if it work like insanely strong global fatal bond
you realize with the ulti he can teleport from one lane to another and sling dark void from fountain don't you? better put the speed he enter a 'shadow' and the speed of dark void's projectile.

ps: he have a funny sight range
pps: he is more a caster, why not make him int?
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my suggestion: change it to dream eater?

another question: the ulti share damage from your allies too? or just yourself? i think it would be too op if it work like insanely strong global fatal bond
you realize with the ulti he can teleport from one lane to another and sling dark void from fountain don't you? better put the speed he enter a 'shadow' and the speed of dark void's projectile.

ps: he have a funny sight range
pps: he is more a caster, why not make him int?
Dream eater somehow look like consuming something or healing hp...maybe it has same name as pokemon dream eater.xD I will consider it.
About the share damage, the effect will start take action once Darkrai attack a slept unit.Then all connected units will share the pain too.If allies attack those slept unit, they will be instantly awake,so allies cant dealt damage to them.
About the shadow speed...ya, i will add it on next version.Thx for pointing out some flaws on it.^^
About the sight range, Darkrai usually will be more stronger when at night.Thus i put those sight range to him...xD
Maybe i will consider to let him primary attribute to int...

Anyways, thx for you suggestion..i very appreciate ^^
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^ I will start comment once you update it.
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Hypnosis?

I'm too lazy to go for a review
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^ I will start comment once you update it.
PM me if you can.
Can start now XD

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Hypnosis?

I'm too lazy to go for a review
Lol...TT it fine...xD

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Nononojustno
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Update
  • Change Darkrai primary attribute to intelligence.
  • Buff and nerf base attribute and gain.
  • Add some missing info.
  • Rescale mana cost on Dark Void and Dream Bond.


Next Version Needs
  • Need suitable and nice icon.
  • BG,hero intro and skill description should be polished.
  • Inspire me some ideas on ultimate skill.
  • Any Suggestions and Critcisms are welcomed. Also tell what you like and don't like about this hero.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:17 AM   #18
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Default Re: Darkrai, The Dream Maker

I don't understand the bouncing part could you explain it?

also I think it would be better if you put your ultimate as a skill 2 instead of having two sleeping skills. For example you could put one enemy to sleep and have another enemy feel the nightmares (damage) of the sleeping unit. That would go for having enemies feel the effects of other sleeper heroes also like naga and astropos. Lastsly think of a replacement skill... Like the concept not sure about the theme.
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About the bouncing part...
First you cast on a unit.Then Darkrai become shadow and follow the unit.He is invulnerable and movement dominated by the shadow owner. Then if there are units nearby him in the Aoe of bouncing , player may click on it , and thus Darkrai shadow will move toward the targeted unit' shadow.

Understand?? ^^
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:24 AM   #20
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Im still a bit confused but I updated my last post....overall good hero don't over do it with the sleep though.
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