Magic Immunity

[Nutsy]

What about Repel dispelling GA buff... does that mean that being magic immune dispels some buffs... is it similar to purge?

[MauranKilom]

Originally Posted by Nutsy

What about Repel dispelling GA buff... does that mean that being magic immune dispels some buffs... is it similar to purge?

Originally Posted by Vault Dweller

Times quoted: OVER NINE THOUSAND

• Aura buffs are applied by timed intervals, so removal of them is not obvious.
• AoE Buffs go on effect as unit enters area. Once they are removed, unit need to exit and reenter the area.
• Active Immolation and Mana Shield will be turned of when their buffs are removed.
• Once it's buff is removed, Passive Immolation will be disabled until unit is Paused/Unpaused, Killed/Revived or ability/item is removed and added again.
• Units with 0 ms can't be Cycloned. ( Like Ensnared, Entangled )

Awww Yeah!

It is indeed similar to purge.

[GoldenSun]

May I add a little update that Charge of Darkness no longer give Magic immunity?

[mcgwire]

Question(s):

I've noticed that Repel does not dispel things like the slow from Panda's thunderclap or Ogre's flame slow (i.e., target is slowed, omni casts repel, DoT stops but slow is still active). Can you explain the mechanics behind this? Thanks.

On the same line of thinking, I've noticed that Aphotic Shield can debuff even stuns after they connect, but Repel cannot.

Also, how does magic immunity interact with silence? I think Thrall and Silencer's ultimates > magic immunity.

Also i've noticed that AA's ultimate cannot be dispelled with Repel after connecting (not sure about before).

[EebstertheGreat]

1. Gaining magic immunity only removes magical buffs. There is a guide on this.

2. Aphotic Shield removes all negative buffs via triggers.

3. Ultimates go through magic immunity, as stated in the guide. Non-ultimate silences (like Drow's) and Soul Burns (like Orchid's) cannot target magic immune units.

4. Part of the ultimate can be removed and the magical damage can be stopped. This has already been discussed in a couple threads.

[mcgwire]

Originally Posted by EebstertheGreat

There is a guide on this.


This has already been discussed in a couple threads.

Can you provide links? Thanks.

[EebstertheGreat]

Originally Posted by mcgwire

Can you provide links? Thanks.

There are hardly any threads in this subforum. Can you really not be bothered to look fro the one called "mini guide to Purge"?

As for Ice Blast, here's the post you want:

Originally Posted by BBQ

You should know that there's one function for the shattering effect and one for the DoT/regeneration prevention.


Purge (all Purge-based abilities), Eul's Cyclone (Invoker's Torado is excluded), Dark Pact, Kraken Shell and Time Lapse are all triggered to completely remove both the shattering effect and the DoT/regeneration prevention.


Now, the more complex situation.

Aphotic Shield, Borrowed Time and Mirror Image (all Mirror Image-based abilities) all can remove the buff of the Slow Aura (there are some other abilities that can do that as well, but they're unimportant in this case).

However, the buff will be reapplied up to 0.5 seconds afterwards (depending on when the aura was applied), while the DoT/regeneration prevention function runs every 0.1 seconds (starting when AA is picked). When the function runs, if the buff is no longer present, the DoT/regeneration prevention is stopped. This means that these abilities will cancel the DoT/regeneration prevention most of the time.

The shattering effect function runs whenever the unit that was hit by Ice Blast is damaged. It checks for the buff as well, and if the unit doesn't have it, the trigger is destroyed. So, in order to prevent the shattering with these abilities, you need to get damaged (even a 0-damage event would suffice), at most 0.5 seconds (a.k.a. before the buff is reapplied) after using them.

[mcgwire]

Originally Posted by EebstertheGreat

There are hardly any threads in this subforum. Can you really not be bothered to look fro the one called "mini guide to Purge"?

What does purge have to do with the original question regarding magic immunity and buffs?

Regardless, thanks for the AA info.

[EebstertheGreat]

Originally Posted by mcgwire

What does purge have to do with the original question regarding magic immunity and buffs?

Regardless, thanks for the AA info.

In its most general sense in WC3, "purging" is the act of removing buffs.

[AmaTecBat]

Originally Posted by Vault Dweller

First 4 combinations on the table are mostly referred as Physical (Normal), Pure (Precise), Mixed and Magical respectively. Others are not commonly used thus they don't have any short name.

Is Attack Type Spells identical to Attack Type Magic?

When i use the GUI function Unit - Damage target with the settings Attack type Spells and Damage type magic and convert it to custom text, it becomes ATTACK_TYPE_NORMAL, DAMAGE_TYPE_MAGIC, which would be a pure damage spell.

EDIT:
Nevermind, what is referred to as AT Normal in the table is actually ATTACK_TYPE_MELEE or ATTACK_TYPE_HERO.
Attack type Spells really is ATTACK_TYPE_NORMAL.

[MauranKilom]

Blizzard never fails to confuse everyone.

[EebstertheGreat]

Originally Posted by AmaTecBat

EDIT:
Nevermind, what is referred to as AT Normal in the table is actually ATTACK_TYPE_MELEE or ATTACK_TYPE_HERO.
Attack type Spells really is ATTACK_TYPE_NORMAL.

What the World Editor calls ATTACK_TYPE_MELEE, all other literature (including tooltips, etc.) refers to as "Attack Type: Normal." What the World Editor calls ATTACK_TYPE_NORMAL, all other literature refers to as "Attack Type: Spells."

[Hanzou]

WorldEdit Value	Jass Value	Equivalent
Spells	ATTACK_TYPE_NORMAL	Spells
Normal	ATTACK_TYPE_MELEE	Normal
Pierce	ATTACK_TYPE_PIERCE	Normal
Siege	ATTACK_TYPE_SIEGE	Normal
Magic	ATTACK_TYPE_MAGIC	Magic
Chaos	ATTACK_TYPE_CHAOS	Normal
Hero	ATTACK_TYPE_HERO	Normal

Blizzard sure knows how to do it the hard way

[MauranKilom]

^I'll save that in a bookmark. Removes another bit of confusion in the world editor.

[Hanzou]

^ I robbed it from wc3c.net =|

[oulay]

once i was playing spirit breaker and i took a double damage rune then i used my 1st skil to attack an opponent then i used the ulti but after i used it i realised that there is no double damage so the ulti's magic imunity made it go or what???

[EebstertheGreat]

Yes, magic immunity removes the buff granted by Roar, which is what the DD rune uses.

[oulay]

soul keeper's ulti doesnt effect magic immune heroes although it is hp removal and not magical damage why???

[Black Isle]

Originally Posted by oulay

soul keeper's ulti doesnt effect magic immune heroes although it is hp removal and not magical damage why???

Skill is coded in a way that the each HP Adjustment effect is triggered by the Storm Bolt spell that's cast by dummy units. This Storm Bolt ability which you see as mini-stunning skulls in game, is not an ultimate ability therefore dummy units fail to cast it if target or Terrorblade is Magic Immune.

[kevs926]

life break provides magic immunity also