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Old 04-20-2010, 10:36 AM   #81
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Default mini guide to demolish (quelling blade)


i heard stuff like that when my notebook was gone. i'll trust you robzor but still will test it out myself before adding it in the guide.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:43 AM   #82
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I ran secondary tests myself earlier today, do note that it's Demolish which does not work in this case. Obviously it will still work against targets which does not have any mana pool (seeing as Feedback is not active in this case).

But yeah, feel free to re-test it.
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Old 04-20-2010, 03:33 PM   #83
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ok tested and edited.
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Old 04-20-2010, 05:52 PM   #84
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This one stacks with demolish if the demolish is aquired the feedback ability, else demolish won't work.
Maybe add that it has to be aquired AFTER feedback, cause right now your sentence fails at both grammar and usefulness... D:
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:22 PM   #85
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ffs. thx
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:09 AM   #86
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so having lifesteal and quelling blade is retarded? no extra dmg from demo?
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:11 AM   #87
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When an Orb effect and a Demolish based ability would affect a unit which is an allowed target for both abilities the Orb effect overrides the Demolish skill fully, so no bonus damage.
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:03 AM   #88
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I always thought QB worked the same way Drow's Trueshot aura does, didn't know +dam items were amplified as well. Great guide, thanks for writing it.

On another note, how does QB work with Empowering Haste?
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:51 AM   #89
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EH directly adds damage to the hero using the bonus damage system. so this damage is amplified by QB as well.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:00 AM   #90
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quick updated for 6.68
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:52 PM   #91
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No one explained this, if you buy QB on magina and then lvl up feedback and if you drop the QB and pick it up will it grant bonus dmg since it is last acquired. And if you have 100dmg and vladimirs, will you have lifesteal: 100*1.5*3.2/100*16?
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Old 09-18-2010, 05:38 PM   #92
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Does they stack in 6.64?
Revenants are not regarded as flying summons? So QB works on them?
Since their visual is flying.
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Old 09-18-2010, 08:49 PM   #93
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Derp, not quite correct. Revants have the flying movement type, but are targeted as ground units.
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So, if I understand correctly, lifesteal orb will totally override QB's damage.

but what if I have Vlads/Vampiric Aura, can I lifesteal from QB damage in this case?
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Old 10-18-2010, 02:45 PM   #95
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I want to know - Mana Break (hence feedback, probably) works with QB? I don't know if Mana Break is based on feedback
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I want to know - Mana Break (hence feedback, probably) works with QB? I don't know if Mana Break is based on feedback
Yes, it works.
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Old 11-29-2010, 02:56 PM   #98
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yes manabreak is based on feedback so the stacking rules do apply as i pointed them out.
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Old 01-03-2011, 10:37 AM   #99
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Correct me, if i am wrong, but i red the article till end, its really good and useful, thanks for it, but i tried one thing. I was Tiny, bought scepter, picked up a tree with Warclub ability, i bought MOM also, and then started hitting ancients. And a big suprise for me, both cleave + MOM worked. According to the rules in the article, it maybe should NOT work, but it works. Test it pls, i want to be sure i am not wrong. In this case, Tiny is so IMBA with this ability, imagine Tiny + Magnus combo.
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Correct me, if i am wrong, but i red the article till end, its really good and useful, thanks for it, but i tried one thing. I was Tiny, bought scepter, picked up a tree with Warclub ability, i bought MOM also, and then started hitting ancients. And a big suprise for me, both cleave + MOM worked. According to the rules in the article, it maybe should NOT work, but it works. Test it pls, i want to be sure i am not wrong. In this case, Tiny is so IMBA with this ability, imagine Tiny + Magnus combo.
Sure it works. Cleave works with lifesteal but Demolish(the extra damage against buildings) doesn't. So you can steal life from enemies properly. Against buildings Demolish will work because they are no valid targets for lifesteal.
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Sure it works. Cleave works with lifesteal but Demolish(the extra damage against buildings) doesn't. So you can steal life from enemies properly. Against buildings Demolish will work because they are no valid targets for lifesteal.

Ohh ye u are right, so the conclusion is i guess, MOM + Scepter is megaimba on tiny. Cool.
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Thanks for this information!

I have a question, you stated that demolish stacks with pure buff placers, but not with all orbs(?), so what happened if I wanted to try Phantom Lancer with Feedback and Demolish? It should both work on illusions right?
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Old 01-10-2011, 01:06 AM   #103
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Yes illusion will benefit from both the feedback and demolish as long as quelling blade is aquired after the feedback ability is.
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This guide should be update since SnY is no longer an orb.
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Old 06-17-2011, 11:19 PM   #105
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Pulverize based skills (only relevant for Tidehunter here) are independant of the demolish based spell.
He no longer uses this, you should update.
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Doesn't work on Familiars, should be included in guide.
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:24 PM   #107
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Is there any way QB work with Life Steal? (Mask of Death, Dominator, Satanic)
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http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/Orb_Effects
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