Complete the Hero 22

[cluGAmERsy]

Originally Posted by fremdlaender

Man, it's fine. ^^

lol missed that one

[cluGAmERsy]

"One ability has to disable the opponent. This disable has to be invoked in a special way, that does not yet exists in DotA."

What mean? It looks like same for second secondary challenge

Edit: Whoops, sorry for double posting

[fremdlaender]

Ok, that's a bit harder to explain.

Both secondary challenged (which are optional by the way, you don't have to fulfill them) require your hero to have a disable (stun, slow, etc).

One ability has to disable the opponent. This disable has to be invoked in a special way, that does not yet exists in DotA.

This means, the disable has to come into effect in a special way, that's not yet present in DotA. I listed the existing 'conditions' in the spoiler.

For example, Apparition's Cold Feet would fit that requirement (if it wasn't yet in DotA). If you don't leave the AoE during the duration of the spell, you get stunned. No other disable in DotA has this property. (Some might argue, that Light Strike Array and Split Earth share it, but imo, no).

One ability has to disable the opponent. This disable has to be unique and not yet existing in DotA.

Means, the disable itself may not be used in DotA yet. Existing types of disables are also listed in the spoiler.

As types of disables are generally used on more than one hero, I will list a new one here (if you really wanted to use it in your hero, go on. It's not a new idea and I won't suspect you of 'stealing' it here).
For example, Mind Control (meaning, the ability to control an enemy hero entirely with your commands) would fulfill this challenge.

I would, however, not recommend to use a Mind Control spell, as it's generally held for way too powerful for DotA.

[cluGAmERsy]

Originally Posted by fremdlaender

Ok, that's a bit harder to explain.

Both secondary challenged (which are optional by the way, you don't have to fulfill them) require your hero to have a disable (stun, slow, etc).


This means, the disable has to come into effect in a special way, that's not yet present in DotA. I listed the existing 'conditions' in the spoiler.

For example, Apparition's Cold Feet would fit that requirement (if it wasn't yet in DotA). If you don't leave the AoE during the duration of the spell, you get stunned. No other disable in DotA has this property. (Some might argue, that Light Strike Array and Split Earth share it, but imo, no).


Means, the disable itself may not be used in DotA yet. Existing types of disables are also listed in the spoiler.

As types of disables are generally used on more than one hero, I will list a new one here (if you really wanted to use it in your hero, go on. It's not a new idea and I won't suspect you of 'stealing' it here).
For example, Mind Control (meaning, the ability to control an enemy hero entirely with your commands) would fulfill this challenge.

I would, however, not recommend to use a Mind Control spell, as it's generally held for way too powerful for DotA.

Nice, thanks for explaining!

[AmplifyMagic]

Originally Posted by r3dman

Ever read God of Death's Hades' suggestion? It is absurdly powerful, but also very hard to set up and counterable.

U completely missed my point, i was referring to the fact that a dragon aspect and a raid boss doesn't quite fit in with the rest of the mortal heroes present in the game.

If you think Deathwing should level up from scratch to fight on par with a murloc ninja or a quilboar or a pair of goblins, sadly you need a reality check on the powerlevels of our beloved heroes.

That's not to say he's off boundaries, there are no limits so if you can make it work balance and story/lorewise, by all means give it a go.

[Famousewok]

By the way, does this have to be codeable within the editor? I suppose it does, but can't seem to find anything about it.

[cluGAmERsy]

Guardian of Naxxramas
Saphiron


Saphiron is an intelligence hero who excels at supporting allies or ganking enemies using his combo of Glacial Field and Crystal Ice Spheres to deal massive damage to a single enemy. Since Crystal Ice Spheres deal mix damage and has a mere 8 seconds cooldown, you can spam it and deal damage to magic immune units. Frozen Essence would make a good combo with all the other skills by reducing its magic and physical armor. Its sub-skill helps ensure the stun of Glacial Field and prevents teleporting enemies to flee. With these three skills, it would make a deadly combo. His ultimate, Arctic Storm, synergizes with all the other spells. Although all his combos are easily done, it would require him a lot of mana to make a single combo or two. He never leaves his target dead.


Saphiron was a a member of the blue dragonflight. He guarded a treasure in northrend and was slain by Arthas Menethil. He was resurrected by Kel'Thuzad as a Frost Wyrm and served the Citadel's Dread Master, Kel'Thuzad. Saphiron can summon fields of frost and ice at his will. Freezing essence comes out from his body and he can channel frost spheres to deal massive area damage. He can also make devastating storms around himself cutting the vision of those who dare enter the storm.

Glacial Field


Notes:

• Gets immobilized only when its MS reaches 100
• MS is still reduced to 100 during stun but dissipates when the stun is over
• Immobilized enemies cannot cast spells
• Immobilized units lasts for 2s
• A unit can only be affected by stun 'once'

Crystal Ice Spheres


Notes:

• Damage Type: Mixed
  AoE Damage Type: Physical
• Deals max damage and minimum aoe when MS of target is 100 or less and Deals minimum damage and max aoe when MS of target is 522 or higher.
• Channels for 1.5s

[indent]Frozen Essence


Notes:

• Damage type: Physical.
• Buff duration refreshes after getting affected again

• Shatter
  
  
  Notes:

  • Damage Type: Physical

Arctic Storm


Notes:

• Damage type: magical.
• Enemy units' vision will remain the same except they will lose vision on allies.

• X
• Change-Log
• Credits

Change Log

04-03-2012
-Posted Hero (WIP)
-Entered Hero on contest

04-04-2012
-Finished Hero

04-08-2012
-Tweak First skill
-Changed third skill icon
-Completely reworked second skill
-Reworked third skill
-Added change log tab
-Added credits tab

04-14-2012
-Tweaked first skill

04-22-2012
-Updated BG story
-Reworked second skill
-Tweaked ulti

04-30-2012
-Updated template(Hope its better )
-Added Intro
-Replaced first skill icon
-Tweaked stats

Credits

-O_xD for the template
-People at hive workshop for the icons
-NoThlnG for listing out unused models so that we can use the models
-All who reviewed my hero

Primary Challenge:	Saphiron
Secondary Challenge:	First skill

[Klagger]

Just need to know that this creature can be used as this main challenge modal??

It does not have any lore.
I get this picture from here...http://www.wowpedia.org/Forsaken

[r3dman]

Originally Posted by AmplifyMagic

U completely missed my point, i was referring to the fact that a dragon aspect and a raid boss doesn't quite fit in with the rest of the mortal heroes present in the game.

If you think Deathwing should level up from scratch to fight on par with a murloc ninja or a quilboar or a pair of goblins, sadly you need a reality check on the powerlevels of our beloved heroes.

That's not to say he's off boundaries, there are no limits so if you can make it work balance and story/lorewise, by all means give it a go.

Read that sugg, if you think the God of Death himself should lvlup on par with a murloc, a wisp or a witch doctor...

http://www.playdota.com/forums/showt...ighlight=Hades

Read it. It is really awesome and kinda (?) balanced, in the way hes not OP.

[cluGAmERsy]

Originally Posted by Klagger

Just need to know that this creature can be used as this main challenge modal??

It does not have any lore.
I get this picture from here...http://www.wowpedia.org/Forsaken

If it's a basic unit like let's say a ghoul then, NO! If it's somewhat in the story just like Engineer Gazlowe(in warcraft bonus campaign) but even though he's not important, then his model is allowed but unfortunately his model is taken by techies. Is my explanation right fremdlaender?

[AmplifyMagic]

The difference between Deathwing and your random suggestion "Hades" is that Deathwing is a well established lore figure present in Azeroth. Not only is he a titan blessed dragon aspect, he is also a powerful raidboss a whole expansion is based around.
If you think you could compare the earth shattering dragon to a non existent hero suggestion that no one cares about, you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Your argument holds no value because you keep referring to Hades, which in fact has no connection to Azeroth.

If you're going to compare heroes, atleast compare heroes that are relevant, like the implemented champions already present ingame to that of the legends of Azeroth.

[Klagger]

Originally Posted by cluGAmERsy

If it's a basic unit like let's say a ghoul then, NO! If it's somewhat in the story just like Engineer Gazlowe(in warcraft bonus campaign) but even though he's not important, then his model is allowed but unfortunately his model is taken by techies. Is my explanation right fremdlaender?

i really confusing now...TT
So what modal can i use as this main challenge.I cant find a suitable modal.
Can you help me to list out?? I need a shadow type modal.

[cluGAmERsy]

Originally Posted by Klagger

i really confusing now...TT
So what modal can i use as this main challenge.I cant find a suitable modal.
Can you help me to list out?? I need a shadow type modal.

Deathwing? maybe?
A dreadlord is a possibility(not balanar's model)

That's all I can think of right now. Sorry If I made you confused.

[Klagger]

Originally Posted by cluGAmERsy

Deathwing? maybe?
A dreadlord is a possibility(not balanar's model)

That's all I can think of right now. Sorry If I made you confused.

DeathWing?? A website?? No, is mot your fault , is mine
Anyways thx for helping me

[cluGAmERsy]

Originally Posted by Klagger

DeathWing?? A website?? No, is mot your fault , is mine
Anyways thx for helping me

Website? What are you talking about?

[darkseraphim]

My Entry:

Download test map here.

Firelord
Ragnaros


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Template by The][nquisitor.
Made using Saguine's Hero Maker

[Klagger]

Originally Posted by cluGAmERsy

Website? What are you talking about?

Sorry for misunderstood...well can this shade be the one who important ??

http://www.wowpedia.org/Shade

[fremdlaender]

Originally Posted by Famousewok

By the way, does this have to be codeable within the editor? I suppose it does, but can't seem to find anything about it.

Would be appreciated. I myself deduct a few points if something is not codeable, because then it has no point being suggested.
You can, however, ask if your suggestion is codeable, I will answer that.

@Klagger
I guess the picture is from the TGC? As it is just a 'random' forsaken, no.
I also know no Shade, that would fit to the main challenge.

You have to find a suitable character in the WC3 universe, not just a type of units. For example, if you found a banshee, that is important to within the warcraft universe, it would be allowed to use that picture you posted (sadly, there is none, except maybe Sylvanas, but that's a special case).

Thinking of a 'shadow being' as you describe it, there is at the moment really no character, that comes to my mind, I'm sorry.

[Klagger]

Originally Posted by fremdlaender

Would be appreciated. I myself deduct a few points if something is not codeable, because then it has no point being suggested.
You can, however, ask if your suggestion is codeable, I will answer that.

@Klagger
I guess the picture is from the TGC? As it is just a 'random' forsaken, no.
I also know no Shade, that would fit to the main challenge.

You have to find a suitable character in the WC3 universe, not just a type of units. For example, if you found a banshee, that is important to within the warcraft universe, it would be allowed to use that picture you posted (sadly, there is none, except maybe Sylvanas, but that's a special case).

Thinking of a 'shadow being' as you describe it, there is at the moment really no character, that comes to my mind, I'm sorry.

Arh.... anyway thx you for the explanation ^^…
I might not going to join this though...

[darkseraphim]

Is non-targetability codeable? Example, Unit cannot be targeted by anything, but may still take damage from AoE spells. I'm guessing it would be like Astral Imprisonment, but would there be another way?