Originally Posted by Banned
No just look at how calmly she said her words and the reaction of the cat
She didn't say anything extreme yet she was treated and branded various things by the cat. That's the very point I've been projecting through out this time. People disliking things getting extreme reactions from liberals.
You're being ridiculous. Your MS paint scribble is not an accurate representation of reality, present or future, stop pretending it is. Whenever we criticise your position, you immediately come up with this elaborate hyperbole how tolerating gay people means you have to help gay people hook up or discuss anal sex on a daily basis. I don't get where you're getting this bullshit from. I assume you don't discuss the intimate details of your sex life with complete strangers, and who you befriend is entirely up to you, so if you don't want to discuss gay sex, don't get close with gay people, or tell them yoou're not comfortable discussing that sort of thing lol. Not that I think gay people would be interested in befriending someone who is physically appalled by the notion of their sexuality, but that's another matter.
We're not criticising you for having an opinion, although we think yours is irrational. We're criticising you for thinking that your opinion
trumps the rights
of other people.
I do not hate gays, I dislike them.
And if I voice it out and disagree with it. Why are you telling me that I'm homophobic?
I am not screaming FAG DRAG!!!
I am saying I don't like it.
Simple as that I don't like it. I do not approve of it. But if it happens I cannot do anything about it, But still I don't like it.
If you keep your personal preferences private and don't try to enforce them then there shouldn't be a problem. As long as you keep them to yourself, you can have any number of wacky ideas and bigotries. The problem is that the anti-gay lobby doesn't try to keep their opinions to themselves. Not only are they actively trying to legistlate their opinion, they're also actively promoting the bigotry meme among imprssionable youngsters and spreading lies and misinformation. When faced with this sort of dangerous disregard for societal wellbeing, i think it's absolutely justified to paint the bigoted lot of you with a broad brush rather than trying to figure out how actively you hold your convictions, what your gaybashing quota is etc.
Let's make an analogy to the KKK here. 100 years ago, these folks were still spreading lies and misinformation and terrorising black people in the south. What changed? The difference isn't that racists don't exist anymore, and we certainly didn't go up to every racist and politely ask him if he acted on his bigoted beliefs before publicly denouncing and criticising these beliefs as harmful, bigoted, backwards and irrational. No, the difference is that the racist meme got ridiculed and marginalised to the point where it's untenable to hold such a backwards position and still be taken seriously.
The fact you seem to be missing is that NOT all opinions are equal, no matter what you've been told in kindergarten. Your taste in music or ice cream might be personal, private, irrational and beyond reproach, but your opinion on other groups of people isn't
. Whether your favourite colour is red or blue, chances are you wont be out there harming people who disagree with your opinion on colours. Whether you prefer chocolate or vanilla ice cream, chances are you wont be enforcing vanilla-only marriages and marginalising chocolate lovers. If someone tells you that they're personally deeply offended by the sight of chocolate ice cream and insists that ice cream parlours shouldn't sell that flavour, you'd laugh in their faces, and be perfectly justified in doing so.
Everyone has the right to have an opinion. That right doesn't mean their opinion is beyond criticism. If your beliefs are stupid or irrational, I'm not oppressing you or alienating your rights by pointing that out. If you don't want to be called a bigot, either find a rational reason to oppose homosexuals or stop opposing them altogether.
Now these people now would scream at me "HOMOPHOBIC! BIGOT! RACIST". Hell yeah now what?I'm homophobic now because I dislike it?
Umm, well, yeah
. You dislike an entire segment of the population because of stereotypes and discomfort at the thought of gay sex.
Do you like dota?
Yes?End of story
No?GB2LOL FAGGOT NOOB I BET YOU CAN'T PLAY DOTA FOR SHIT
Can't you just dislike?
You're allowed to like or dislike things for whatever inane reason you want. That doesn't mean that we need to make the rules cater to your whims. If your reasons for liking or disliking things are irrational, we have every right to point that out.
I like dota. but that doesn't mean I think it should be mandatory for all kids to play it. I don't think we should ban other games (no, not even LOL and HON).
Honestly whatever issue these guys talk about its always have been a
my taste > your taste.
Nice projection there buddy. You accuse of of holding our opinion in higher esteem than yours (which is obviously true for all of us, otherwise it wouldn't be our opinion). BUT, whereas we're pleading for equality under a constitution that protects the minorities from the whimsical opinion of the majority, you're pleading for mob rule where the opinion of the homophobes trumps the rights of the gay people.
The constitution which protects gay people from discrimination is the very same constitution that protects homophobes, racists and neonazis from being persecuted for their
beliefs; and while I think those people are wrong and offensive, I don't think they should be jailed or prosecuted for their convictions, only their (potential) actions.
This isn't "my opinion > your opinion", this is "gay people's rights > your butthurt QQ"