Messerschmidt's Reaver, EH, MS ( Recipe only)

[ZipFile]

Remark: I am not aiming to completely ruin the dota mechanic, but I understood that it will definitely influence on the game-play, with having a recipes on such important artifacts, with that I do not apply any changes to the gold cost, which I found well balanced for now, just to increase variety in game-play, and make for some heroes good start, I thought that make sense to have recipes on that artifacts, it will definitely speed up the gaming process which I found is a good profit. However ^_^ The fact that the price of that artifacts actually have less effectively as their components by small amount will have players to slow down on building their artifact. So: it will really increase speed of gaining the luxury ones, but not so much, and still I thought this suggestion have a much of sense, because it grabs\re-build slots for artifacts from shops and there can be more options for new ones

Messerschmidt's Reaver
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Eaglehorn
Bought From :

Mystic Staff
Bought From :

How to put 3 items in one shop? 3 options:

1. Move Gem or Magic Stick into the Ancient of wonders, becouse 1 of them actually grants true sight, and there are a couple of items that help you to see invis units, or another that grants you useful heal abbility, + Move Talisman of Evasion to the Sena
2. Let it be that only recipes are bought from Legas, but :\ not so nice one varient
3. Make an additional shop! ^_^ Check my add shop suggestion ->

[Urknal]

no

[Foxlostinlove]

useless

[patrishosho]

No because it would be too easy to build,

[Rasie1]

1. Recipe, not reciepe
2. This will change current mechanics and balance of Dota, because you will be able to make these items at the start of the game.

[sirky004]

because

[ZipFile]

hmm, yes that will be, however here you just bought the most expensive artifacts from the next art. It will not be good for all heroes, because you can get dominator for 1850, and thats all

the process of getting luxury artifacts, will be faster, however

the compared to just 3 x sucks,
becouse with that you get +25 Strength for the price of 3200. = 128 gold per 1 stat
while with 3 you get +30 strength for 3000 = 100 gold per stat, so by just upgrading that artifact you loose some money and time, while others can get 2800 or /,, for the more. and you still need 2300 more gold to ugrade into lux, while others will benefit from their ones, already maded

[zwegat85]

They have that bad cost/stat ratio for a reason.

Why can't we upgrade 6 gg branches into an ultimate orb with a 1800g recipe?

[ZipFile]

Originally Posted by zwegat85

They have that bad cost/stat ratio for a reason.

Why can't we upgrade 6 gg branches into an ultimate orb with a 1800g recipe?

I am not advising here no branches to the orb one,
gg branches are cheap and neat ones that help you by adding you stats and then converting to more useful artifacts such as magic wand and headdress and buckler. They are designed to help you in the start. Orb is not designed to help you in the start, it is made as a component of more expensive artifacts. That's why.

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I have not heard the good reason why the reciepes on this is op, just wery fast getting ? Think again ok you get the MS or EH, MS but, your oponent at that moment get ( 2800 or /,, for the more. ) artifact that cost the same or cheaper\little higher. He get some custom one with some useful abbilities inside, you have get raw stats. Who will be more in profit at this moment? Please say to me who will be. And again, after you have reached to middle-late game what is the difference, you can purchase that components for the same money as they are. My suggestion is designed for ones who dares to rush into lux artifact in early game, but it will be not so easy as you think(and such persons would be the top 1 place to be ganged obviously), and not all the heroes would and should rush into lux, especially as they are supporters.

[silvercover]

simply no.
this will drastically change the mechanics of the game.

Originally Posted by ZipFile

I am not advising here no branches to the orb one,
gg branches are cheap and neat ones that help you by adding you stats and then converting to more useful artifacts such as magic wand and headdress and buckler. They are designed to help you in the start. Orb is not designed to help you in the start, it is made as a component of more expensive artifacts. That's why.

which is what these items are for. also, they save item slot so it would obviously cost a bit more for balance purposes.

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I have not heard the good reason why the reciepes on this is op, just wery fast getting ? Think again ok you get the MS or EH, MS but, your oponent at that moment get ( 2800 or /,, for the more. ) artifact that cost the same or cheaper\little higher. He get some custom one with some useful abbilities inside, you have get raw stats. Who will be more in profit at this moment? Please say to me who will be. And again, after you have reached to middle-late game what is the difference, you can purchase that components for the same money as they are. My suggestion is designed for ones who dares to rush into lux artifact in early game, but it will be not so easy as you think(and such persons would be the top 1 place to be ganged obviously), and not all the heroes would and should rush into lux, especially as they are supporters.

they're called luxuries because they can be game breaking by late game.
HoT can make you regen madly just by staying outside for a few secs.
satanic can easily bring you from red hp to green hp.
BF can make you a fast and "invulnerable" killing machine.
EB can make you insta gib if your SF/morph/*insert agi nuker*
scythe can turn the enemy into a useless chicken for several crucial seconds.
shiva can slow the entire enemy and make you much more tougher.

the items you gave helps a lot by mid game but how much will it do by late game?

one of the other things you should also note is that having a recipe requires the item to have a lot of other benefits not just something like A.stat + B.stat + a boost in stat = item.
if your going to make it like this, your going to have to give some other additional effects.

[rocketstorm]

no because it will be easy to build powerful items with that and earning gold is the challenge you just cant take away from the game it will be just to easy if we do that!

[HELLRAISER]

T-down. The higher tier items using those items to be build are way too cheap for what they do. The fact that you have to risk having so much money on you to acquire them its the additional "price" you pay for the higher tier items.

[d1zzyh4ck3r]

No.
Might be implemented on -em.

[Flame13]

Please don't ruin the game...

[unnamedkiller14]

No because it would be too easy to build,

total truth. this will ruin farm technique and while building, will make bonus item slots wasted.

[BorisPeace-]

T-Down. The high-costing items are there for a reason.

[deathkidkun]

These are not called luxuries for no reason you know. I'd hate to see someone get eaglehorn early-mid.

[Mr.Grzonka]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
JUST BEACOUSE NO

[ZipFile]

NONONONONON becouse no, wtf 1 million trolls here

[Raven1234]

Bump much appreciated