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Old 05-03-2012, 06:39 PM   #81
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Just so today I've posted that picture in the chat of skype lol, it's full of lulz. That mana transfer was the weirdest.

That theory which says that Archer wanted to kill Emiya and make a paradox and let Rin summon Saber sounded right off the bat to me though, or the reason why he didn't ekusukariba'd/caliburn'd Berserker due to his resistance increasing for the same technique used on him so Shirou wouldn't fail.
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Old 05-03-2012, 07:36 PM   #82
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I feel ignored no one wants to talk about loli assasin?
I mean LOLI you know? This kind of topic should lure Mr. Foxxie
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I feel ignored no one wants to talk about loli assasin?
I mean LOLI you know? This kind of topic should lure Mr. Foxxie
Apparently we got struck with serious bussines.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:03 AM   #84
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somehow the lolis from nasuverse are not liked by most people...
but hey who the hell cares illya~~
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:17 AM   #85
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Guys, u are forgetting the MOST EPIC loli assassin in the entire Fate universe.

The FATE/APOCRYPHA ASSASSIN?

Jack the Ripper?

Hello?

Does anyone not want a loli Jack the Ripper?



Yes, loli Jack the Ripper.

SHE is "Jack" the Ripper.

And Chapter 1 of Fate/Apocrypha is pretty decent. If anyone wants to read it, just google it, or i can send u the link. Screw it, I'll just post it now.

http://canonrap.wordpress.com/2011/1...pocrypha-act1/
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:26 AM   #86
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Haha, they really should've changed her name into Jane or something.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:20 PM   #87
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I feel ignored no one wants to talk about loli assasin?
I mean LOLI you know? This kind of topic should lure Mr. Foxxie
Thou has lured me. I findeth no pictures, thus I shalt return to where I cameth from.
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Guys, u are forgetting the MOST EPIC loli assassin in the entire Fate universe.

The FATE/APOCRYPHA ASSASSIN?

Jack the Ripper?

Hello?

Does anyone not want a loli Jack the Ripper?



Yes, loli Jack the Ripper.

SHE is "Jack" the Ripper.

And Chapter 1 of Fate/Apocrypha is pretty decent. If anyone wants to read it, just google it, or i can send u the link. Screw it, I'll just post it now.

http://canonrap.wordpress.com/2011/1...pocrypha-act1/
Yes DO WANT!
Is my favourite servant because I like Assasin class and she haves so many good passive skills. If I were his Master I would fight to give her a normal life, a second chance of having a childhood and being happy.
I would try to avoid using her in direct combat and use her extremely good Presence Concealment to gather information and try to kill the master by myself.
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^Emiya Shirou? You sound like what he'd do in that situation, lol.
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^Emiya Shirou? You sound like what he'd do in that situation, lol.
I know >_<
BUT Jackeline-chan is just a child in my values if I were in the Holy grail War and I get a servant that is an adult I would fight along his side without problems, but Jack the Ripper (Servant Assasin) would get more and more tainted has the battle goes on (because of her own passive ability, a "mental pollution" that goes futher if she is exposed to a gruesome enviroment)

In the other hand being serious If I got a Servant like her and there is no way to make her avoid direct combat I would enter in to a later stage of the war and I would try to manipulate the war in to leaving just female masters...
I know that I need to be pragmatic to win, but I also have my own values in my mind during a battle there is no such a thing has "honor" but killing children and involving them in combat is out of question.

Also because of Jack the Ripper class she can't match servants like Saber, Rider or Lancer is combat so she needs to kill their master on the first try.
I personally like most the Assasin and Berserker class.
In my free time I write some "fate status char" for heroes that aren't listed in the Fate universe like Jacques of Molais (Saber)
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Old 05-05-2012, 04:56 AM   #91
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Coming to speak of which servant classes I like, that would be Archer and Berserker though sadly two latest Archers imo are considered as a (f-)NP spammers.
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Parametres of Apocrypha servant where ?
and is Ryougi Shiki realted to Tohno Shiki?
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or the reason why he didn't ekusukariba'd/caliburn'd Berserker due to his resistance increasing for the same technique used on him so Shirou wouldn't fail.
Excalibur is made by fairies, he can't trace "outer-world" weapons
Same reason why he couldn't trace Ea

Shirou couldn't trace the "real" Caliburn either, he simply gathered all he know of the image and made a "selfmade" Caliburn
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Excalibur is made by fairies, he can't trace "outer-world" weapons
Same reason why he couldn't trace Ea

Shirou couldn't trace the "real" Caliburn either, he simply gathered all he know of the image and made a "selfmade" Caliburn
Are you sure about that? It seemed to me that during HF, he did trace Excalibur, or was I wrong?
It seems to me that Archer said at one point (it may have been during the anime of UBW) that he could trace Excalibur, but not perfectly.

There's a difference between Ea and Excalibur, Ea has been made before the world, Excalibur has been made by the world.
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Are you sure about that? It seemed to me that during HF, he did trace Excalibur, or was I wrong?
It seems to me that Archer said at one point (it may have been during the anime of UBW) that he could trace Excalibur, but not perfectly.

There's a difference between Ea and Excalibur, Ea has been made before the world, Excalibur has been made by the world.
Excalibur was made by fairies not by the world and notice one big difference between shirou making a replica of Excaliburn and between any other replica:

- Fake Excaliburn breaks right away after his use
- It inmeditatly makes shirou faint if not die (Not having Saber sheat would make him explode after the trace)
- He don't gains the knowledge to use the weapon has a wielder like with Kansho and Byakuya
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Excalibur was made by fairies not by the world and notice one big difference between shirou making a replica of Excaliburn and between any other replica:

- Fake Excaliburn breaks right away after his use
- It inmeditatly makes shirou faint if not die (Not having Saber sheat would make him explode after the trace)
- He don't gains the knowledge to use the weapon has a wielder like with Kansho and Byakuya
Aren't fairies kind of doing the will of the world? Anyway, Ea wasn't made by fairies, it was made before, I'm not sure Shirou even recognizes it as a sword.

When he projected Excalibur, he was essentially already dead, the sheath wasn't doing much without Saber's mana, it was his last possible projection, he'd die whatever he would project, because of his arm and the rest (that guy is just the worst masochist/most awesome determinator ever). We don't know what would happen if he traced it while being healthy or if Archer projected it.

Concerning the knowledge, doesn't he actually uses Excalibur? I may be wrong on that, but that's what I understood.
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Aren't fairies kind of doing the will of the world? Anyway, Ea wasn't made by fairies, it was made before, I'm not sure Shirou even recognizes it as a sword.

When he projected Excalibur, he was essentially already dead, the sheath wasn't doing much without Saber's mana, it was his last possible projection, he'd die whatever he would project, because of his arm and the rest (that guy is just the worst masochist/most awesome determinator ever). We don't know what would happen if he traced it while being healthy or if Archer projected it.

Concerning the knowledge, doesn't he actually uses Excalibur? I may be wrong on that, but that's what I understood.
Fairies are from otherworld, in fact when Saber uses Avalon it don't creates a shield or a barrier since there is nothing that can portect you from Ea, but instead removes her from reality like Puck's Phase shift, it takes her to the land of the fairies for a short time.
Yes Shirou uses Excaiburn 2 times one with the help of Saber , since both were close to each other Avalon was preventing Shirou from exploding and also sinceSaber was holding the sword to they culd kill berserker.

Now about Heaven's Feel ED I say Deux ex Machina!
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Facts:
- Ea is made by a material not known to man
- Shirou never traced Excalibur, he traced a copy of Caliburn
- Excalibur is made by fairies, I don't know about Caliburn


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the sheath wasn't doing much without Saber's mana
False, Kiritsugu planted the sheath into Shirou to save his life after the Holy Grail destroyed Fuyuki
Also, at the time where Shirou took the full-strength-blow from 'Zerker to "save" Saber, he would have been cleaved in half, but the sheath prevented it

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- He don't gains the knowledge to use the weapon has a wielder like with Kansho and Byakuya
He can "download" the skills the weapons previous masters had aquired, thats why Goldies "originals" got destroyed(!) by Shirou's "fakes"
Goldies weakness is not only his pride, but also he incapability to use a weapon


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Are you sure about that? It seemed to me that during HF, he did trace Excalibur, or was I wrong?
It seems to me that Archer said at one point (it may have been during the anime of UBW) that he could trace Excalibur, but not perfectly.
Good point, dunno, could be
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^You made me remember that wtf scene in the VN when Shirou fought Gilgamesh, I mean in the swing fight when he supposedly had his insides coming out, projected Caliburn and fought Gilgamesh with real Caliburn, could deflect blows only thanks to Caliburn's auto defence hax or something, then what the hell was next, didn't expect in Fate to see Shirou recover with blade coverage.
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^ wat

Do you mean the scene where Saber and Shirou met Goldie on the streets after their date?
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^ wat

Do you mean the scene where Saber and Shirou met Goldie on the streets after their date?
Nope, he is talking about UBW route
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UBW is really awesome but fate is full of nothing
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^ wat

Do you mean the scene where Saber and Shirou met Goldie on the streets after their date?
Exactly, that was Fate route and I found it dumb for Fate route.
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Exactly, that was Fate route and I found it dumb for Fate route.
Yeah, is really Herpy Derpy

"Yo Shirou I knew that I killed your pseudo-dad, yet I wanted to make you some Mapo Tofu, sadly you found my collection of dead kids in the basement"
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^fukken lulz. I really need to resume playing the VN, it's getting really better where I'm at.
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There, the thing I talked about in "Shirou's dream" in UBW route, similar stuff was in Fate route which I didn't saw coming.
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Who is the mastermind behind this piece of art so I can make him a son?
If that dude make one like that with Fate Zero and Apocrypha I will be his waifu... seriously.
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Coming nearby to the end of UBW route.

So far my favorite bad end, the one with Rider was funny but not this good imo.

Morning scenes are getting so boring I almost always skip through them, though stuffs like dates made me rofl for a good while.
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Coming nearby to the end of UBW route.

So far my favorite bad end, the one with Rider was funny but not this good imo.

Morning scenes are getting so boring I almost always skip through them, though stuffs like dates made me rofl for a good while.
"So far" is the point here, I can guarantee you that it will change once you play Heaven Feel. One of the bad end there is just awesome.
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"So far" is the point here, I can guarantee you that it will change once you play Heaven Feel. One of the bad end there is just awesome.
I almost feel like played Heaven's Feel for the "Mind of Steel" ending
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I almost feel like played Heaven's Feel for the "Mind of Steel" ending
I hate that one, I'm referring to the one nearly at the end when Shirou becomes GARer than GAR.
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I hate that one, I'm referring to the one nearly at the end when Shirou becomes GARer than GAR.
Why you hate that ending? Is the most obvious outcome of Shirou remaining "lol save everyone" logic, in fact is possible that he become GARcher by chosing "Mind of Steel" ending in some alternate dimension.
I think that you mean when Shirou traces Kansho and Byakuya to overedge Saber?
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Why you hate that ending? Is the most obvious outcome of Shirou remaining "lol save everyone" logic, in fact is possible that he become GARcher by chosing "Mind of Steel" ending in some alternate dimension.
I think that you mean when Shirou traces Kansho and Byakuya to overedge Saber?
Because I want to save the girl! I don't like when "good" characters die, in general.

And yes, I meant that one, but in spoiler tags, since some people seems not to have played it yet.
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"So far" is the point here, I can guarantee you that it will change once you play Heaven Feel. One of the bad end there is just awesome.
That's why I said "so far", I'm certain there will be better, 2nd favorite is Barsaka's raep into 2 pieces in Fate route.

Also heard of Mind of steel ending, some people said it's somewhat like "Illya" route.
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That's why I said "so far", I'm certain there will be better, 2nd favorite is Barsaka's raep into 2 pieces in Fate route.

Also heard of Mind of steel ending, some people said it's somewhat like "Illya" route.
Well since Sakura is such a boring and horny heroine, they made Heaven's Feel so you can go deeper in to Ilya past
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Alright, I'll start again, been playing UBW route which as I thought is awesomesauce.

It wouldn't be a surprise if circuit boy wouldn't feel pain, lulz.

So Rin is a pervert huh?

She must be a sorcerer, because they indeed are from the same road, oh wai-

Order some Kayneth's signature food, fried circuits from Shirou today.

That was completely random.

Would have been fun to see more of that.

I guess people can't just simply die even if they're killed...

Saber had golden hair too...:stare:

The amount of tsundere Rin showed is...glorious.

I wonder what they think about his impressive luck stat.

It couldn't get more interesting than that, so he still wants to kill people in order to save majority.

Being in time loop is suffering.

UBW really changed my opinion on Lancer, at least he has better sense of humor in my view.


Probably the only thing that brought sorrow, fated to get punched by karma and ignoring his future self words.

Can't believe such bullshit powered him up, though it was entertaining fight.

It's funny how Shirou gained abstract thinking in UBW, and gets called baka million times more even then.

Imo UBW is just pure gold compared to Fate route, that is my opinion though, tomorrow gonna finish the fight with Gilgamesh, gonna try some more bad ends in UBW too while I'm at it.
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^Yeah that tsundere embarrassed/angry tohsaka is just glorious.
e: So I got true end, will go for good end with walkthrough next.


Shoryuuken~

He really should cast some strenghtening magic on his dick.

I liked this death more than how he died in the Fate route.

Moecher, what in the world ._.

Yeah, since she'll never have sex with Shirou again, I guess he's toast.

Jam it in? You lost me, if no more sex then I'll have no more HCG.

The bad end where Shirou gets gg'd by Rin, that was some interesting stuff afterwards. Makes me wonder where the hell he was.

Bad luck Shirou, great price for the loss of virginity.
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Lancer is BY FAR the best character in the FateVerse

Especially because F/HA Lancer reveals that Saber only survived because Lancer wasn't seriously GAY BOLG'ing her
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