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Old 05-12-2012, 11:20 PM   #1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34C4hSFuAjY

Just out of curiosity, after stumbling upon this video. does any old DotA players such as myself miss this old version of Storm Spirit. definately an IMBA hero when maxed out. but just the gameplay of this hero was pretty interesting to me.


ITT: you can also discuss old versions of heroes if you like.

old niax was also fun.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:27 PM   #2
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so was dark terminator
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:31 PM   #3
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didn't play that far back. maybe i did? but i heard he was too imba. insane generic skills. but was made playable if you randomed him. i'd like to see him in a fun map. instead of the other space marine with imba range and ministun.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:34 PM   #4
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IMBA? O no, only vs int heroes because of the shield I guess but old storm was the true definition of ''glass cannon'', huge damage output but damn was he squishy vs physical damage.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:40 PM   #5
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He was crap.

The ultimate was basically a blink skill with cooldown and it grabbed nearby units (everything) with you to the new location. It had a crappy cast animation so it was hardly usable for "swap like tactics" with dagger and such, and it never really had any practical implications bar escaping. And even for that it could fail, because you could've pulled the chaser with you.

Barrier (same as current pipe, or xin's skill without the immolation part, castable on allies) was his biggest asset. There was no pipe back in the day.

Overload was on every X attack, and the steroid was basically strafe which drained mana and could be had on as long as you had mana. So yeah. Overload was pretty darn good when first introduced, because it purged. Talk about hard counters.

Design-wise, I hope he never comes back again. The new storm is 900% cooler.

Now bring the old Razor back and I'll show the ricefarmers what ricefarming really is.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:40 PM   #6
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imba when MAXED out. as the vid shows. he could even fight at most evenly against late game AGI heroes. but definately not against hard maxed out carries. still an interesting hero otherwise.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:42 PM   #7
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He was crap.

The ultimate was basically a blink skill with cooldown and it grabbed nearby units (everything) with you to the new location. It had a crappy cast animation so it was hardly usable for "swap like tactics" with dagger and such, and it never really had any practical implications bar escaping. And even for that it could fail, because you could've pulled the chaser with you.

Barrier (same as current pipe, or xin's skill without the immolation part, castable on allies) was his biggest asset. There was no pipe back in the day.

Overload was on every X attack, and the steroid was basically strafe which drained mana and could be had on as long as you had mana. So yeah. Overload was pretty darn good when first introduced, because it purged. Talk about hard counters.

Design-wise, I hope he never comes back again. The new storm is 900% cooler.

Now bring the old Razor back and I'll show the ricefarmers what ricefarming really is.
Agreed but still i'd like him to be reintroduced in a fun tavern with old heroes
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:27 AM   #8
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Wasn't old morph able to be played as an int/str/agi hero depending on which attribute was the highest? That was so long ago I can't remember his spells.
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:28 AM   #9
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I remember him.
I don't miss him though, one single bit.
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:42 AM   #10
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Lol in the past people did Storm Spirit as a carrier hero...(I forget him a bit)
He was really a great damage outputter, comparing to now....

And another hero that I liked in older versions: Rooftrellen...He was really cool with his tree summon to give sight (''Eyes in the forest)
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:47 AM   #11
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Default Re: Does anyone miss this hero?

He was not imba before, less right now. He was a glass canon and anti support (role now taken by his annoying pain in the ass brother Xin)
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:05 AM   #12
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Wasn't old morph able to be played as an int/str/agi hero depending on which attribute was the highest? That was so long ago I can't remember his spells.
No, it was simply his ulti that's been changed over time, his other skills are mainly the same.

Waveform
Morph Agi/Str (and only these two)
Adaptive Strike, which had different effect depending on your current primary attribute(I think it was Str knockback, agi 3x damage bonus, and int a 2.5s stun?)
and Ulti which require channeling and change his primary attribute.

Back in the day I'd just switch to Int as soon as possible, morph most/all Agi to Str, and get some armor + mana regen item and just play him like a nuker until I finish more damage items then I switch back to being agi to sorta carry.
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:09 AM   #13
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i fucking LOVED old storm and visage. storm is still one of my daves, visage ist just meeh.
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:36 AM   #14
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no
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:11 AM   #15
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I prefer the old Naix and Razor,especially Razor
Oh and the invoker too :>
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:17 AM   #16
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I prefer the old enchantress where her 1st skill is Impetus and her ultimate is untouchable.
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:31 AM   #17
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I pwned with his cause he attacks at wtfimba speed.
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:42 AM   #18
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At first I missed the spy trees.

Then I missed the eyes in the forest.

But most of all, I miss the Sentinel owls. It basically let Roof be a alt version of techies. I had so much fun with those. I would stick them to the sides of lanes and activate it whenever someone ran by.

Hell, I even miss old living armor. I liked that armor. Now it's a passive. On top of that, he's lost stats and got his ulti nerfed >:0

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Old 05-13-2012, 04:15 AM   #19
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I miss Rikimaru with Death Ward myself...

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At first I missed the spy trees.

Then I missed the eyes in the forest.

But most of all, I miss the Sentinel owls. It basically let Roof be a alt version of techies. I had so much fun with those. I would stick them to the sides of lanes and activate it whenever someone ran by.

Hell, I even miss old living armor. I liked that armor. Now it's a passive. On top of that, he's lost stats and got his ulti nerfed >:0

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Old 05-13-2012, 04:20 AM   #20
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I dont even know how Storm old ulti work.
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:25 AM   #21
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He was crap.

The ultimate was basically a blink skill with cooldown and it grabbed nearby units (everything) with you to the new location. It had a crappy cast animation so it was hardly usable for "swap like tactics" with dagger and such, and it never really had any practical implications bar escaping. And even for that it could fail, because you could've pulled the chaser with you.
How could you say this? His ult was so awesome! Id love to see something similar on a new hero. You could gank with whole team out of nowhere. Pull enemies out of roshan, pull to mines. Get everyone in for a black hole or mag stun. The low cd and simple mana made it an excellent utility spell.

Although that ult and magic barrier didnt fit his role as dps. He was pretty much another right click hero. (I did love procing a purge every few seconds)

Yes, new storm is better. But id love to see that ult back. Shit is meta changing.

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At first I missed the spy trees.

Then I missed the eyes in the forest.

But most of all, I miss the Sentinel owls. It basically let Roof be a alt version of techies. I had so much fun with those. I would stick them to the sides of lanes and activate it whenever someone ran by.

Hell, I even miss old living armor. I liked that armor. Now it's a passive. On top of that, he's lost stats and got his ulti nerfed >:0

RIP OLD ROOFTRELLEN
Agree. Owls really gave him an edge. Id give up that new leach bullshit spell for owls any day. Hell, id give it up just to get his imba str back. He would smash so damn hard with all that strength. Honestly, the biggest turn off for me is that shitty str gain. I hate him now :/
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:10 AM   #22
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I miss the boots+chainmail+blades of attack phase boots. Shit was awesome.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:25 AM   #23
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old naix, old razor, old silencer, old void, old medusa........ I MISS YOU ALL
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:48 AM   #24
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old naix, old razor, old silencer, old void, old medusa........ I MISS YOU ALL
They were changed for a reason. If you want to play heroes like them, go play LoL/HoN.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:45 AM   #25
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I remember once buying four hyperstones on this hero for fun...
The passive 8-hit slow was pretty funny.
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:15 PM   #26
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old naix, old razor, old silencer, old void, old medusa........ I MISS YOU ALL
Old void as in GLOBAL STUN?

i want to play old niax again... shame i was pretty noob back then when those heroes were around so i never had the experience of playing such imba heroes to their farmed potential...

Old nightstalker (void demon) was fucking imba... PERMA ALLIED haste and degen aura. shit was crazy. then they nerfed him to only being fast at night
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:34 PM   #27
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didn't play that far back. maybe i did? but i heard he was too imba. insane generic skills. but was made playable if you randomed him. i'd like to see him in a fun map. instead of the other space marine with imba range and ministun.
he is in the "Fun" version of dota, together with that marine
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old naix was also fun.
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because of old version of naix people are still building basher and kelen's, to not forget him
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