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Old 11-27-2009, 12:01 AM   #1
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Sentinel:
<kein30448> Leaver
<sylent>
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<stickyasian> Leaver
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Scourge:
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<hondaboy> Leaver
<zeratul00> Leaver
<hbbb>

Without taking the game itself into account, how are my Pudge skills?
You'll see why if you watch it. I've probably played Pudge some odd 5 times in the past 3 years. So I definitely need work.

If you do want to watch 80 minutes, although I really recommend you do both, here is the game summary.
Basically, this is the worst game I have ever experienced.
It didn't help that me and Pudge are still a work-in-progress, so feel free to let me know how I was doing.

Tech was AFK for the first 15 minutes or so, and they didn't boot him for some reason but whatever.
So it started out with Axe plowing us solo top against Crix, so I tried to help him by sacrificing my early/mid game power, to no real avail.
Somehow, our Bot was getting beat by solo PotM also, which surely didn't help.

So Axe pretty much owned us by himself, so he was fed/farmed beyond belief and there was nothing we could really do. Eventually we tried chain disabling him and everyone focusing him, which is EXACTLY what he wants. However it ended up working good. We killed him a couple times, and then he just quit.

However, this is where things got WORSE.
Sentinel was now down 2, with Techies AFK every now and then, but now they both just got a whole load of items and gold.
So we thought, sweet, time to overpower them.

However, we did not realize they had infinite buybacks. So we tried real hard to keep up the pressure, but they would die after weakening all of us, come back, and finish us off.
But whenever we actually got INTO the base, BOOM! Techies kills someone and everyone else is red.

Not to mention Obsidian is pretty much the scariest late game carry. I got focused and died in about 3 seconds every time. With all that gold Obsid already had a BKB so there was really nothing to do.

So when went on for another 20 something minutes with them having gold for buybacks EVERY time. Then Skeleton King in all his Battlefury (OMFG ) ownage left.

It was then, I realized, we probably are over for.
Obsidian was at the 250+ pure damage point and we kept getting screwed.
It took forever for Spectre to own, but eventually she got farmed, but it wasn't enough.

So after another 40 minutes of buybacks and failed pushes and Techies mines, Crix went AFK. Then we lost.

It was just plain stupid. I don't know how we were supposed to win that.
Was it me and my crappy Pudge? Was it my teammates?
I think it was a clear picture on how annoying leaver gold really is.
We just couldn't farm enough to catch up to the power of a 250+ Obsidian or Mirana with full Tier items.

Take a look at the 80 minute replay.
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:04 AM   #2
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Default Re: How is my Pudge?

eh.. fast forwarded through it a bit. laning pudge and crix against a solo axe is possibly the worst idea ever lol. you cant do shit against him creepskipping. ofc lion shouldve gone, but he was more into farming and KSing apparently. gotta say i really didnt manage to pay attention all the time.
dont ever get close to axe early game with pudge. pudge has laughable armor. you go near him at top second tower, right when your creeps attack him.. bad idea obviously. really, just stay back, try to lasthit, and flame lion for being such a retard. or, just leave. i woulda done that tbh. you could try to hook him into tower range, but i guess em-towers are only good for making helix proc more.

other than that, pretty horrible game, so many leavers. stopped after 40 min fast forward. easy mode. low skill :< not so much you, just in general. techies somehow had a hex and phase boots at 20 min lol, didnt understand how he got that, given that he was afk for ages. funny how they beg you to votekick him after he put like over 9000 mines mid. and waste them for 2 heroes. dunno what to say, at some rosh fight you attack axe like afk, when you should just go eat harbinger or sumthin. other than that just practice a bit. its hard to tell how to improve pudge when enemies are rather bad, its pretty easy to hook autoattacking targets :/ theres an awesome pudge guide by Bengal_Tigger in the guides-section, read that, will definitly help you improve.

oh and your hook CAN go through trees, as well as through siege units.
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:41 AM   #3
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Yea bottom was getting raped as it was, and lion really didn't want to do anything.
So I felt hell I might as well try to help.

Well I went afk for like 30 secs right at the Rosh fight in the ancient creep camp haha, so I came back like OH CRAP! So I scrambled lol.

But yea, it was a REALLY BAD game
frustrating

Oh my hook just disappeared in the trees, even though in was in perfect line to harbringer, so i was just like whoa wtf.
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:57 AM   #4
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easy modeish
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:37 AM   #5
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Your problem is EM, simple as that. You'll never get better when gold is fed to you on a spoon.

In an 80min EM game you were given 9600 gold for doing absolutely nothing. 9600 gold. Thats insane. Why bother playing good when gold is given to you free in that quantity.

Edit- Not the mention you level up like fucking mad, so nukers are useless, and towers drop like hookers.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:57 PM   #6
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The bots I play on are -em :X
I like stats

I really don't care either way.

Pub + em = love
I can't do anything else but b.net pubs, so i am doomed to it.
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Old 11-28-2009, 01:07 PM   #7
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^ garena is free.
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Old 11-28-2009, 01:20 PM   #8
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^ garena is free.
And you will never see EM on Garena, SolarClipz. Host a game on garena and tell them its EM, and watch as they leave.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:05 PM   #9
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Fixed thread tag from [6.64][1.24b][-AREM] to [6.64, 1.24b, AREM]. Follow the pattern next time, please.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:15 AM   #10
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Obsession right, on garena chance of getting -em is 0.000001% and i like it very much.
Try go there high level room just to play ar or ap as u wish. Thats no problem.
But then I dont understand why so many ppl bother them to play such games with such ppl with such crap mode xD
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