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Old 07-10-2012, 09:57 PM   #1
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Default Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?


Hi all !

I'd like to know if it's possible to remove all of Ice Blast's effects with Manta Style and/or BKB, and if yes, how is that achieved ?

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Old 07-10-2012, 10:07 PM   #2
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Default Re: Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?

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Hi all !

I'd like to know if it's possible to remove all of Ice Blast's effects with Manta Style and/or BKB, and if yes, how is that achieved ?

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The "buff" is actually an aura.
Manta - No, everything will be kept, the buff, the visual, no-regen, etc...
Illusions wont be affect by it
Bkb - No, everything will be kept. Not sure on damage though.
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:36 PM   #3
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Default Re: Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?

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The "buff" is actually an aura.
Manta - No, everything will be kept, the buff, the visual, no-regen, etc...
Illusions wont be affect by it
Bkb - No, everything will be kept. Not sure on damage though.
False and false. Why do you spread wrong information?

Manta removes it completely.
About BKB, I'm sure it removes the damage part, not so sure whether the whole buff gets dispelled, including the shatter
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:51 PM   #4
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Default Re: Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?

Purge also works for that purpose.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:49 AM   #5
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Default Re: Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?

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You should know that there's one function for the shattering effect and one for the DoT/regeneration prevention.


Purge (all Purge-based abilities), Eul's Cyclone (Invoker's Torado is excluded), Dark Pact, Kraken Shell and Time Lapse are all triggered to completely remove both the shattering effect and the DoT/regeneration prevention.


Now, the more complex situation.

Aphotic Shield, Borrowed Time and Mirror Image (all Mirror Image-based abilities) all can remove the buff of the Slow Aura (there are some other abilities that can do that as well, but they're unimportant in this case).

However, the buff will be reapplied up to 0.5 seconds afterwards (depending on when the aura was applied), while the DoT/regeneration prevention function runs every 0.1 seconds (starting when AA is picked). When the function runs, if the buff is no longer present, the DoT/regeneration prevention is stopped. This means that these abilities will cancel the DoT/regeneration prevention most of the time.

The shattering effect function runs whenever the unit that was hit by Ice Blast is damaged. It checks for the buff as well, and if the unit doesn't have it, the trigger is destroyed. So, in order to prevent the shattering with these abilities, you need to get damaged (even a 0-damage event would suffice), at most 0.5 seconds (a.k.a. before the buff is reapplied) after using them.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:59 AM   #6
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Default Re: Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?

I remember that Time Lapse remove this as well, is that true?
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:05 AM   #7
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Default Re: Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?

Euls seemingly dispels it.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:08 AM   #8
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Default Re: Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?

So, if I did understand correctly BBQ's post, to get rid of Ice Blast completely when you have Manta Style in your inventory, you'd need to activate it and get damaged in the next 0.5 second after splitting to get rid of it. Is it correct ?

On the other hand, all BKB can do, whether before being hit by Ice Blast or after, is rendering you immune to the initial damage and DoT in the first case, while dispelling the DoT in the second one, is that correct ?
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:29 AM   #9
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Abba shield?
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:36 PM   #10
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Default Re: Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?

Anyone for my small question above ?

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Old 07-12-2012, 02:26 AM   #11
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Abba shield?
may be,i think so
And kraken shield? can work?
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:44 AM   #12
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Default Re: Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?

Just read BBQ's post; you don't have to keep asking questions that were already answered.

Kenshiro, your interpretation is basically correct, although you will usually have less than 0.5 seconds to get damaged after removing the buff.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:52 PM   #13
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Euls seemingly dispels it.
i dont think euls dispells it, but it does prevent damage while your in the air
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Old 07-15-2012, 08:53 PM   #14
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Default Re: Is it possible to remove Ice Blast's effects ?

Cyclone is triggered to remove Ice Blast. Reading is surely overrated.
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