Drunken Panda problems

[boney4rd]

Originally Posted by sumthingsup

hmmm.. i guess i'm too dumb to notice that.. so I go AB no matter what? but others have said that mana will rarely be an issue if someone already has arcane and if clap is not used to farm, rather, used only when needed..

Dunno what you are referring to not noticing, im sure you're not dumb though ^.^. It's really just preference between AB and phase/bottle. It can depend alot on your team too if you're in a trilane with those two supports then yeah you can probably go phase if you know your supports are gonna get those AB's. Just try things out until you find what fits; and one style might not work all the time don't be afraid to mix it up.

[ShinImagine]

AB solves your mana problems. It allows you to use claps more recklessly to farm and push. You can use it to rush your blink(arguably substituteable, erm wtf did I just wrote, nvm, by force staff)/radiance(if you are planning for this, be prepared to rush it before the 30th minute)/agha (assuming your playstyle relies heavily on the ult).

[jokinen]

If I'm solo mid I always go bottle->phase->drums->dagger->agha
If I'm not mid it's eather the same as above and bottle crow or the more usual build of wand->ab->dagger->aghs

if our lane gets lots of gold early on like a bunch of kills and the supports have money to buy early arcanes then I go wand->phase->drums->dagger->aghs

usually I max clap at 7 take ult at 6, 11, 16 stats at 2 if a bit harder game and I'm not at mid then 2 and 4, 1 lvl of brawler at 4 or 8 1 lvl of haze at 8 or 9 then max brawler before haze.

I take brawler over haze cause it helps me tank better against multiple opponents and even without any damage items those crits hurt early game not so much mid late game.

panda has pretty good rune control and bottle crowing is always nice when u are mid so always get a bottle if mid. phase is the best boot choice as before dagger it gives the needed mobility and far superior ms against clapped opponents. drums because they are drums and help u with mana problems. bottle crowing in side lane is not as good as in mid and u dont have easy acces to runes so ab solves all ur mana problems. now that u have ab u dont need drums cause the added int goes kinda wasted and u alredy have the mana to sustain blink dagger

[TL.Shock]

Bottle wand phase boots dagger janggo agha. No mana problems.

[khorenc]

max clap first then make arcane boots , later farm a blink dagger and a battlefury

[ark-eXodia]

soul ring...
normal boots,3x gg branch,soul ring, then magic wand after that you can rush too buy point booster, then dagger,after that agha, gg.

[ToNeS1337]

From lvl1 to 7 get Thunder Clap and stats with ultimate then from lvl7, max out Drunken Brawler and level your ultimate then max out Drunken Haze and get your ultimate last. For item builds, I prefer Drum rather than Soul Ring because the movement and attack speed auras are good with your ultimate and DPS plus it gives you great stats from cheap components to buy. Get a Gauntlet and 3x branches with 6 tangos at the start of the game. Make Phase Boots for the damage and the Phase ability to make great use of the AOE from Thunder Clap then focus on creating the Drum and Wand. After that, focus on getting Blink Dagger and Aghanims. Once you get those items, get luxury items like Heart, Manta, AC/Shiva's or a DPS item like MKB. The reason for getting Manta is because your illusions benefit from Drunken Brawler and also it makes you useful during ultimate because your hero isn't present so therefore you can DPS with Manta before and after your ultimate.

[godofrandom]

Build is: clap at 1, 3, 5 and either stats at 2 and 4 or drunken brawler at 2 and 4. It is just personal preference. For items: Arcane boots or phase boots. Phase will allow to get better position for clap. Generally, arcane are better, but with proper mana management and early janggo phases should work too. Core: Agha. Blink is core most of the time too, but against teams with good initiation it is not very useful, most of the time enemy tidehunter will initiate first. Drums are very good too. Then you can get anything, but auras can be used during ultimates so vlad's is a good choice if you have melee hard carry and will help you a bit too. Cuirass is fantastic, shiva's is very good.

[jokinen]

Originally Posted by godofrandom

Build is: clap at 1, 3, 5 and either stats at 2 and 4 or drunken brawler at 2 and 4. It is just personal preference. For items: Arcane boots or phase boots. Phase will allow to get better position for clap. Generally, arcane are better, but with proper mana management and early janggo phases should work too. Core: Agha. Blink is core most of the time too, but against teams with good initiation it is not very useful, most of the time enemy tidehunter will initiate first. Drums are very good too. Then you can get anything, but auras can be used during ultimates so vlad's is a good choice if you have melee hard carry and will help you a bit too. Cuirass is fantastic, shiva's is very good.

why would u let enemy tide initiate first?

[KuroNeko]

I am addicted to phase+soulring. Depending on what you are building itemwise, you can take 2 levels of stats or 2 brawler or 1 stat 1 brawler or haze etc etc.

It's rather fluid really. I like the early brawler since it has synergy with my early phase boots right click attack-move power. PB/blink soonafter.

[.PulsE]

I take 3 Claps and 2 stats from 1-7,only leveling brawler after 11.I don't add haze unless there are physical dpsers in the opposing.

Arcane+Drums+Bottle should be enough for mana.
Of course Blinks+Aghas.

[Monsterlord_2nd]

I don't add haze unless there are physical dpsers in the opposing.

Don't ignore Haze. It's a cheap, long range slow with just enough strength to let an ally catch up and disable a runner properly. The number of escapes you can prevent with the skill is amazing, and 50 mana is an extremely good deal.

[.PulsE]

Originally Posted by Monsterlord_2nd

Don't ignore Haze. It's a cheap, long range slow with just enough strength to let an ally catch up and disable a runner properly. The number of escapes you can prevent with the skill is amazing, and 50 mana is an extremely good deal.

I see your point.But I guess taking stats over it is just my personal preference(and a bad habit).

[Dreamish]

He's a good user of the two RoP starting build, as picking up Tranq and Basi then Drums fixes any and all problems. Then the standard initiation item (Dagger/Force/Eul's/Invis) and then a teamfight item. A Magic Stick is also a cheap and effective mana supply.

Also I personally don't take stats myself, but I know it is viable on him, but then, I don't make Ahg's sometimes either.