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Old 08-13-2012, 05:29 AM   #41
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Default How do you truly stop Lycan?


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best answer so far...

OT: good ol "Gank him and you'll be fine"
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:39 AM   #42
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Theorycraft stop Lycan.

Other than that, you can't.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:41 AM   #43
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A good Lycan destroys any of the heroes mentioned here. Lol'd at beastmaster, razor etc all just powercreeps for lycan. slardar is just a walking stun for lycan because at the time lycan gets his bkb (15 minutes) slardar will have nothing to become dangerous unless extremely fed

also lol at bane, sleep him, then what? you think lycan doesnt have a team? take away his damage? bkb. ulti? does bane has a bkb as early as lycan? i think not

roaming doesnt work either. lycan has a team too. you can gank him 1,2 maybe 3 times but at some point of the game you have to look at the other lanes , a good (note:good) lycan will still find ways to get xp and farm, and in the end you will be 5 levels below him and wonder wtf happend.

lanaya and naga siren are annoying for him, literally cant solo kill lanaya and she does a lot of damage

you cant stop him if the player is competent, game will be over at 20-25 minutes. hes the best carry in the game, dont see him picked alot because hes boring as fuck to play

doesnt mean he cant lose tough. if his team is shit he cant do anything later in the game
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:08 AM   #44
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How about NAga?
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:28 AM   #45
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You can stop Lycan when the guy that controls him sucks badly.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:22 AM   #46
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:14 AM   #47
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Default Re: How do you truly stop Lycan?

I personally don't like to waste time countering him with ganks etc. it just buys opponent time and freefarming lanes with potentially other dangerous heroes.

you can ward neutrals though to reduce camp spawns.

WHat I do is asking team to pick a strong pushing/counterpushing lineup including an ulti that goes through BKB and I pick a hard carry that shits on lycan (morph and the like...).

When enemies are done fapping to my team and I had 30 min free(more or less)farm I shit on Lycan' face and it makes me jizz.

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Old 08-13-2012, 11:51 AM   #48
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Not saying this is a fantastic idea but I was once playing Omni with a Tide on Dire. I warded his small camp.

Once we reached level 3 (2 points in Purification/Gush. 1 point in Degen Aura, Anchor Smash) we just ganked him in jungle and managed getting 3 kills on him before he was level 6. We also stopped him from Roshing and forced teamfights so he had barely any items for the majority of the game.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:19 PM   #49
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Slardar, Razor, Beastmaster and Naga counter Lycan really well and my personally favourite Bane. Basically heroes with disables that go through bkb are Lycans worst enemy.
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:15 PM   #50
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In team fights how about the giant Enigma's ulti?
And stop playing dota if you call Roshan, Nashor . Totally different games.
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:25 PM   #51
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:27 PM   #52
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Kill his two bros first, wolves can only attack as a pack.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:01 PM   #53
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A good Lycan destroys any of the heroes mentioned here. Lol'd at beastmaster, razor etc all just powercreeps for lycan. slardar is just a walking stun for lycan because at the time lycan gets his bkb (15 minutes) slardar will have nothing to become dangerous unless extremely fed

also lol at bane, sleep him, then what? you think lycan doesnt have a team? take away his damage? bkb. ulti? does bane has a bkb as early as lycan? i think not

roaming doesnt work either. lycan has a team too. you can gank him 1,2 maybe 3 times but at some point of the game you have to look at the other lanes , a good (note:good) lycan will still find ways to get xp and farm, and in the end you will be 5 levels below him and wonder wtf happend.

lanaya and naga siren are annoying for him, literally cant solo kill lanaya and she does a lot of damage

you cant stop him if the player is competent, game will be over at 20-25 minutes. hes the best carry in the game, dont see him picked alot because hes boring as fuck to play

doesnt mean he cant lose tough. if his team is shit he cant do anything later in the game
Naga is ''annoying'' for him? Did you even read what i wrote at all? Also nagas tide will rape Lycans low armor. That you can not beat Lycan in pubs is because you are new to dota, not because he is overpowered, trust me. If u actually played against a really good Lycan then you could whine about him being unbalanced. But at your skill lvl you will not meet any good Lycan players.

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I personally don't like to waste time countering him with ganks etc. it just buys opponent time and freefarming lanes with potentially other dangerous heroes.

you can ward neutrals though to reduce camp spawns.

WHat I do is asking team to pick a strong pushing/counterpushing lineup including an ulti that goes through BKB and I pick a hard carry that shits on lycan (morph and the like...).

When enemies are done fapping to my team and I had 30 min free(more or less)farm I shit on Lycan' face and it makes me jizz.

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This works very well. And totally agree with the Lycan ganking. People just take it too far.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:30 PM   #54
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Razor's 2nd skill + phase boot = GG Lycan.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:48 PM   #55
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Me: How do you truly stop Lycan?
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:49 PM   #56
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Default Re: How do you truly stop Lycan?

1. Gank him and you will be fine

The problem with Lycan is, that he can actually win ganks 1v2 if you do not have 2 really good nukers. The dmg of his lvl 3 wolves is just insane on low levels. Last time I did this with I dont know which heroes, we could bring him down easily to red hp and then Furion ported in and killed us together with the freakin wolves I dont say you cant gank him, but it is not as easy as for some other Junglers. And the enemy on your lane gets freefarm for that time.

2. Counters

I liked picking Bane vs Lycan for obvious reasons, the problem is that your ultimate is channeling and you might get interrupted or killed while you hold him in place. I think the idea of picking Razor and get Link pretty early might work well, but if Lycan doesnt get disabled and is smart, he will break the Link fast and easy through his max speed. So you might even need to max Link first, to make the drain fast enough.


The worst on Lycan are his wolves imo, because they give him such obscene earlygame dps Without this advantage he would have something like a vulnerable phase like every other carry...atm Lyca is a dmg-machine from lvl 3 to lvl 25.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:50 PM   #57
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Seriously what is baron??
Baron(Baron Nashor for full name) is a ultra-neutral-creep(LOL ROSHAN) from LoL.
It gives golds and buffs but no immortality because rip-offs are mortal.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:59 PM   #58
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naga
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bkb penetrating disable (beastmaster, bane)
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:03 PM   #59
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Ban him

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Old 08-13-2012, 08:24 PM   #60
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Every time I play against him my team wards his jungle, we ward baron and we gank him in jungle. The other day we ganked and killed him twice in the jungle but he was still able to just come out of the jungle and gank with no items. And even though we shut him down he was still able to solo baron. What else do we need to do? Are there certain items that really counter them? I'm having a real hard time against him even though we ward a lot and gank him. Please give some tips!
Are you talking about another game? personally i have no idea who baron is....
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