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Old 08-17-2012, 12:59 PM   #21
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(NaMaxHp/HuskarMaxHp)
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:46 PM   #22
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:54 PM   #23
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The maximum HP of both do not matter at all. Only the current HP.
dat one and dis one they conflict
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:46 AM   #24
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Instaglib is based on the ratio of huskars max health to NA's. The actual values obviously don't matter as it deals % based damage.
Ahh, now i noticed. Yeah, he's wrong.
Current HPs of Huskar and his target involved. If it would be about MAX HP, then you'd kill yourself just by casting ulty. Would be stupid, right? And by skill decription and notes here in Heroes section one can assume that target damage is also based on current value.

2 Eebster: i know it's quite a pain when someone doesn't post replay. And i did lost that replay. I'll do new test as soon as i'm at PC with War3.

Update: it's good to save replays before saying anything!
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:30 PM   #25
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If the HPs were around those and not exactly those it might be due to the order in what the damage is done/calculated.
Both blademail and carapace should trigger off the same unit takes damage instance, so the order in which they are done shouldn't matter. Carapace's triggered heal wouldn't affect anything. There would need to be a replay confirming the weird result before it would be looked into further.

To the man who is confused. The results show the difference between your current hp and huskars current HP as a decimal (0.8 means you need 80% of his current hp, ie: you have 800 hp he has 1000 hp) in order to kill him when he ultis you

The calculations were started assuming that they are both at maxHP. I have no idea why I did that and about halfway through I realized that the math is fine for any currentHP. Understand I do these sorts of calculations very quickly and don't edit them much.
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:32 PM   #26
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Redid the test. I am walking fail Or some bug happened then.

Everything works like intended now. Instakill at LB lvl1, little-to-no HP at LV lvl2/3.
Always instakill with Agha-LB on same HPs.
For special numbers look into my or beetin posts earlier.

Sorry for fail-test again.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:43 AM   #27
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Yeah, after looking over beetin's numbers again, they do make sense, from a very awkward perspective. Most people are concerned with current hp, not "current fraction of max hp" (except Terrorblade and Necrolyte I guess).
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