[Retool] Bristleback

Wolfos · 08-22-2012, 05:30 PM

BB's problem is that his Ult and his skills have a forced synergy that don't synergize very well. *You have to cast long animation spells to get more MS and Damage for a short burst, then you have to stop moving and attacking to restack your MS and Damage with your long animation spells. *Then your big tank skill only works when you run away, so you have ZERO ability/reason to chase someone through a tower like most chasers/tanks that are currently utilized.

BB's concept is good on paper but has been poorly executed. *My list of changes:

1. *Quill Spray - Raise the cooldown to 4 seconds. *Max of 3 Stacks. *30/60/90/120 Damage per stack. *Shorten or eliminate the casting animation.

2a. *Nasal Goo - Raise the cooldown to 6 seconds. *Max of 3 Stacks. *-1/-2/-3/-4 armor and 3/6/9/12% slow per stack. *This skill should have a definable cast animation.

2b. Nasal Goo - As above, but make it an AoE around BB instead of a targeted spell.

3. *Sprout Bristles - Rework to a self buff instant spell (think Warcry type ability but no AoE affect). *Reduces all damage to BB by 20/40/60/80% for 10 seconds. *This effect degrades to 0% over the duration (similar to Open Wounds style effect). *Whenever BB takes 350 damage during this effect, he gets a free Quill Spray. *Cooldown 35/30/25/20. *Mana Cost: 125/150/175/200.

4. *Warpath: *remains the same.

There might be other tweaks that are needed like Int growth or small changes to any/all of the suggested numbers, but I think this would be a good direction for progressing Bristleback's gameplay.

Lord_Talron · 08-22-2012, 07:09 PM

wow this is actually really good.

solves his magic stick problem and makes him more instantly viable which is needed imo

silly_me · 08-22-2012, 07:23 PM

I have to agree, the concept is actually really nice without changing him a lot.

Lord_Talron · 08-22-2012, 07:30 PM

my god i cant get over how good this suggestion is. not kidding

Wolfos · 08-22-2012, 07:36 PM

*Crosses fingers for IF to look at thread*

08-22-2012, 05:30 PM	#1
Wolfos Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 101	[Retool] Bristleback BB's problem is that his Ult and his skills have a forced synergy that don't synergize very well. You have to cast long animation spells to get more MS and Damage for a short burst, then you have to stop moving and attacking to restack your MS and Damage with your long animation spells. Then your big tank skill only works when you run away, so you have ZERO ability/reason to chase someone through a tower like most chasers/tanks that are currently utilized. BB's concept is good on paper but has been poorly executed. My list of changes: 1. Quill Spray - Raise the cooldown to 4 seconds. Max of 3 Stacks. 30/60/90/120 Damage per stack. Shorten or eliminate the casting animation. 2a. Nasal Goo - Raise the cooldown to 6 seconds. Max of 3 Stacks. -1/-2/-3/-4 armor and 3/6/9/12% slow per stack. This skill should have a definable cast animation. 2b. Nasal Goo - As above, but make it an AoE around BB instead of a targeted spell. 3. Sprout Bristles - Rework to a self buff instant spell (think Warcry type ability but no AoE affect). Reduces all damage to BB by 20/40/60/80% for 10 seconds. This effect degrades to 0% over the duration (similar to Open Wounds style effect). Whenever BB takes 350 damage during this effect, he gets a free Quill Spray. Cooldown 35/30/25/20. Mana Cost: 125/150/175/200. 4. Warpath: *remains the same. There might be other tweaks that are needed like Int growth or small changes to any/all of the suggested numbers, but I think this would be a good direction for progressing Bristleback's gameplay. __________________ If you don't like it, hit ALT+F4 and fill out the complaint form. Complaints Received = 0

08-22-2012, 07:09 PM	#2
Lord_Talron Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: -- Posts: 11,850 Blog Entries: 21	Re: [Retool] Bristleback wow this is actually really good. solves his magic stick problem and makes him more instantly viable which is needed imo __________________ Sig Suggestion Portfolio This is how we roll

08-22-2012, 07:23 PM	#3
silly_me Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,087	Re: [Retool] Bristleback I have to agree, the concept is actually really nice without changing him a lot. __________________ Never fear shadows. They simply mean there's a light shining somewhere nearby. Getting sick of pubs.. [Remake] Spirit Lance Sleight of Fist [Tweak] Gem while using Duel Allow Pudge to turn of Rot when silenced [Fix] Holy Persuasion Teleport Veno/Slark Targeting

08-22-2012, 07:30 PM	#4
Lord_Talron Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: -- Posts: 11,850 Blog Entries: 21	Re: [Retool] Bristleback my god i cant get over how good this suggestion is. not kidding __________________ Sig Suggestion Portfolio This is how we roll

08-22-2012, 07:36 PM	#5
Wolfos Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 101	Re: [Retool] Bristleback Crosses fingers for IF to look at thread __________________ If you don't like it, hit ALT+F4 and fill out the complaint form. Complaints Received = 0