Gay Pride Parade & Homophobia

[JohnGotti]

Originally Posted by Maya

You don't need to parade around screaming "We are gay! We are cool!" to raise awareness.

What you need to do is a campaign backed up with scientific research to purge the myths and prejudices of general public. Namely that sexuality is chosen and that a healthy relationship between two human beings can be immoral and destructive. That is what will raise awareness and tolerance.

This, this and this.
Not every minority should organise parades especially something risky as Gay Pride Parade.

[Mousatos]

Originally Posted by JohnGotti

This, this and this.
Not every minority should organise parades especially something risky as Gay Pride Parade.

Not every minority has the luxury of conclusive evidence.
Black people did the same thing and it worked, so i say whatever the risks are, it's probably worth it.

[funnyfarm]

Originally Posted by JohnGotti

Do you really think masturbating causes blindness?
If you do, you are shallow minded retard.

LOOOOOOL

Ok next time i will add that this is a joke.

[CynthiaCrescent]

Originally Posted by Inreet

Makes me feel bad. And it's not "ok".

This just in. I should totally be able to propose banning of heterosexual sex.

[Lord_Talron]

^why not? artificial insemination works, theres no need for sex in order to continue the human race.

[badmafa]

Originally Posted by Lord_Talron

^why not? artificial insemination works, theres no need for sex in order to continue the human race.

I'm with you. You might have trouble convincing everyone else though.

[frangipani]

Originally Posted by Maya

You don't need to parade around screaming "We are gay! We are cool!" to raise awareness.

What you need to do is a campaign backed up with scientific research to purge the myths and prejudices of general public. Namely that sexuality is chosen and that a healthy relationship between two human beings can be immoral and destructive. That is what will raise awareness and tolerance.

Not to say that research isn't a good idea, but how will this research then reach the people it's supposed to change? Schools, maybe, and that would be great, but what of other people? Inreet himself is proof that with whatever scientific research you have, a person who is already intolerant and unaware will either completely ignore science or find other "research" to support their own bigotry.

I just think that it is unfortunate that there is still a dearth of spaces for acceptance and openness for sexual minorities and a parade at least, even if only occurs once a year, creates such a space.

[Ali Radicali]

Originally Posted by Grubi

copy paste of my old post. There was nothing harmless like those commercials I assure you

This is the spot that was supposed to air. Compare that with spots you linked

Ohmygod, get the torches and the pitchforks!!1!!
What was so offensive about this video, I don't get it.

Originally Posted by Inreet

Diseases caused by gay sex: http://catholiceducation.org/article...ty/ho0088.html

We've already established that christians have an agenda and also that they have no problems lying through their teeth to defend and spread their "good message".

If these retards are willing to lie about the age of the earth, why should we trust their "science" when it comes to sexuality? Because you happen to agree with them?

Also about morality: moral doesn't mean harmless. For example masturbating in public is harmless but immoral, going nude outside is harmless but immoral too.

Both of those actions are illegal (in most countries). They aren't immoral, if you ask me. Both our squeamishness toward nudity and masturbation are a cultural heritage of centuries of christian sexual repression. Many great cultures have/had no problems with nudity. Why should we?

If we stop raising our kids to feel uncomfortable in the nude/around nude people, the whole "problem" with nudity (people feel uncomfortable) goes away.

Morality is smth that was developed by humanity and must not always depends on physical criteria like "harmful" or "harmless". Also there is no absolute morality (e.g. morality in Europe isn't the same as in wild tribe on an island). My morality doesn't accept homosexuality because it's immoral behavior to me.

"My morality doesn't accept homosexuality because homosexuality is immoral."
Lovely circular reasoning, well done. How about:
"My morality doesn't accept baseball because baseball is immoral."
Makes sense right, irrefutable logic!!1!

Originally Posted by Inreet

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1

How nice, another christian hate group hiding behind the guise of concerned parents. The Family Research Center is a christian lobbying monstrosity that's trying to promote, in their words " faith, family and freedom in public policy and the culture from a Christian worldview."

In other words, they want to stop abortions and same sex marriages/unions, return to creationism and prayer in school, etc.

These are the guys responsible for abstinence-only education, among others. Going to the page you decided to quote, we find this lovely nugget:
'Risky Sexual Behavior on the Rise Among Homosexuals. Despite two decades of intensive efforts to educate homosexuals against the dangers of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) and other stds, the incidence of unsafe sexual practices that often result in various diseases is on the rise."

Coming from the guys who actively promote abstinence-only sex education, this is pretty rich. These are the people promoting NOT teaching kids about condoms and other safe-sex measures. These are the people telling kids they should not to fuck till they get married lest god gets wrathful. Oh and lest we forget, these are also the guys telling gays they can't marry.

It's a small wonder that with 34% of the schools teaching abstinence only, and a fair deal more presumably not covering homosexuality, that unsafe gay sex is on the rise.

Originally Posted by Maya

You don't need to parade around screaming "We are gay! We are cool!" to raise awareness.

What you need to do is a campaign backed up with scientific research to purge the myths and prejudices of general public. Namely that sexuality is chosen and that a healthy relationship between two human beings can be immoral and destructive. That is what will raise awareness and tolerance.

The studies have already been done. There are bookshelves full of studies on (homo)sexuality, proving beyond a doubt that gender identities and sexual preferences are innate, not chosen. There are statistical analyses proving that being raised by gay parents has little-to-no influence on the sexuality of the child. Etc. Etc. Etc.

It's quite comparable to the creationists and their little crusade against science and common sense. These people believe in a literal interpretation of the bible, so they believe the earth is 6-10 thousand years old and the big flood really happened. Now of course these little fairie tales have been thoroughly debunked time and time again, but that doesn't stop the fundamentalists from permiating their societies with lies and distortions and misinformation to keep them convinced of the lie.


The problem the gay people face really isn't a lack of research, the problem is how little exposure this information gets, especially in homophobic/religious circles. The opponents of the LGBT movement typically have their own little communities of likeminded bigots with whom they share their own biased misinformation. That is to say, if they talk about it at all. Gays are a bit of a taboo to them, after all.

The only way I see to achieve change is to get people talking and thinking about it, and IMO a parade is an excellent way to force the public to acknowledge you. If a pride parade is a controversial subject, you're bound to have people arguing for and against it, public debates maybe, celebrities and officials giving their 2 cents, etc. And all that is the real goal: get public discourse going, break the taboo, get people thinking about it rather than just shunning the subject.

[TwoHourMotel]

Originally Posted by Inreet

Russian doesn't support LGBT as well (at least something to be proud of).

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1
http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/mal...xual-behavior/

From you second link:

The impact of the health consequences of gay sex is not confined to homosexual practitioners.

[CynthiaCrescent]

Originally Posted by badmafa

I'm with you. You might have trouble convincing everyone else though.

I thought you're asexual?
Or is that supposed to make more sense?

[badmafa]

Originally Posted by CynthiaCrescent

I thought you're asexual?
Or is that supposed to make more sense?

What I meant is I won't care if sex is banned altogether. I don't know if that came across.

[CynthiaCrescent]

Originally Posted by badmafa

What I meant is I won't care if sex is banned altogether. I don't know if that came across.

Well, yes it did come across.
Also I think it's only you on banning sex, really.

[TwoHourMotel]

Originally Posted by badmafa

What I meant is I won't care if sex is banned altogether. I don't know if that came across.

The hell wrong with you, sex is one of the most satisfying experience you can have - Almost as good as winning a game of Dota 2, 20 times in a row

[Lord_Talron]

sex is fine, but i cannot go back to it 30 seconds after i finish

[fr0zenknife]

It is the self-rewarding system of brain. Masturbation causes exactly the same reaction and stimulation. I am not saying sex isn't better, it is just isn't as efficient. Cost me a lot of effort, to be clearer.

[Mazoku]

The hell wrong with you, sex is one of the most satisfying experience you can have - Almost as good as winning a game of Dota 2, 20 times in a row

Sex is so overrated. A very good meal beats avarage sex by a fair margin.

Making love is a diferent story though.

[Madasahat]

I myself am cuddlesexual. I rather cuddling all night over sex anytime, anywhere.

[badmafa]

Originally Posted by TwoHourMotel

The hell wrong with you, sex is one of the most satisfying experience you can have - Almost as good as winning a game of Dota 2, 20 times in a row

I'd take a good Black Hole over sex.

edit: I realized that could be misinterpreted after writing it. I meant Enigma's ult.

[Lord_Talron]

^and here i am holding roses and everything. oh well, cant have been the first time i misinterpreted what someone said

[CynthiaCrescent]

Originally Posted by badmafa

I'd take a good Black Hole over sex.

edit: I realized that could be misinterpreted after writing it. I meant Enigma's ult.

lol
Well making love = sex for me, and I do enjoy it.
But I do have a feeling that I would never be able to do it again sober.