Laning IQ

[YajirobeFromDC]

Originally Posted by Gray_Fox

I love how he bunched himself in the same barrel with Dendi.

This is definitely not an ego boost thread.

Actually, I'm just listing successful mid solo players. Professionally wise.

[Claire Farron]

Yajirobe. You can't never beat Danylo Dendi Ishutin. Don't dream too much by creating this laning IQ. I can't even understand what are you talking about. Laning IQ?

Please explain more.
I would like to learn something from you if possible. And if there's something new that I never heard before, then I will bring it to Na'Vi official Steam group discussion. Lets see what is Dendi's reaction.

[MR-President]

Originally Posted by YajirobeFromDC

Actually, I'm just listing successful mid solo players. Professionally wise.

I'm curious, Yajirobe. If you don't mind me asking, how much money did you earn so far from playing DotA/Dota 2 ? Clearly, you being one of the best and most renowned solo mid players on the planet, I can only imagine the financial benefits that would naturally e with the title.

[Gray_Fox]

Originally Posted by YajirobeFromDC

Actually, I'm just listing successful mid solo players. Professionally wise.

I'd really love to know how you are a "professionally successful solo-mid player".
It just boggles my mind how one could come to the conclusion that they are a professional, by beating 32 random internet noobs.

Also... I'd like to know how much money you've made from your professional dota career.

inb4: Ryze

[DrB88]

Wait.... I thought Ryze was a support player.

[TioFrodo]

i wonder how you guys give so much attention to trolls, realy, just let him think that he is the best player in the world, everybody know that he isnt(not that i see one being the best player in a team game anyway) , no need to keep discussing it.

[YajirobeFromDC]

Please do not deviate away from the thread topic. This thread is to talk about Laning IQ's, not my personal achievements. Thank you!

With Laning techniques being so undermined in this era of competitive DotA, I'd like to hear what people do while laning.

[Mizure]

well his thread in comedy was closed, ofc this troll has to come back to DotaChat!

do you guys think we can manage to not reply to him ?

[Claire Farron]

Originally Posted by YajirobeFromDC

Please do not deviate away from the thread topic. This thread is to talk about Laning IQ's, not my personal achievements. Thank you!

With Laning techniques being so undermined in this era of competitive DotA, I'd like to hear what people do while laning.

You asked me not to deviate away from the thread topic. I would like to ask you to reread your post.

As many of us are already familiar with, there are many different types of laning. Passive laning, counter/defensive laning, offensive/aggressive laning, etc.

My questions to everyone are; What do you usually think about in the laning phase?

Do you ever try to predict/see into the future of your opponents moves?

For myself, laning is an extremely important phase of the game. It sets the tempo for the remainder of it and the result of the lane could be the difference between a fast win or a fast loss.

Some pros (Successful mid laners) Dendi, Bulba, Playmate, myself and countless other strong players find the mid lane to be extremely challenging and requires a lot of practice to be good at.

I want to know the thought process of players in the laning phase.

Discuss

Did I miss any word?
As I said, I don't even understand what are you talking about this laning IQ. Please explain more and you ignore my post?
Well, please link me a site that announce you as a successful mid laner. Thank you very much.

[DrB88]

I drink a beer while laning. Laning doesn't matter, teamfights are more important. And I recover what I lost in the lning phase after I finish the beer.

[AndreLuiz96]

qro uma key pra joga

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I need Key

[YajirobeFromDC]

Originally Posted by DrB88

I drink a beer while laning. Laning doesn't matter, teamfights are more important. And I recover what I lost in the lning phase after I finish the beer.

I believe laning is a quintessential part of the game which does in fact dictate the tempo for the rest of the game.

Successful laning is the first building block to constructing a good game. I believe different laning techniques should be emphasized. It's extremely important.

[Mae Shirayuki]

Defense of the Ancients have 3 lanes. If you are using 3 lanes to face, chase, and kill the enemies, then it's obviously showing that you are a little noob. It's better to get Smoke of Deceits and gank the enemies. I don't think Intelligence Quotient is needed while laning. What the players need are skills, experience, and teamwork. Please be more specific. Don't use IQ to describe everything.

[YajirobeFromDC]

For the benefit of the thread

Everybody who wants to contribute, please post your thought processes in laning. This thread is not to talk about my accomplishments, dendi's or whoever else's.

[Gray_Fox]

Well, in my opinion.... Defensive laning is for spineless noobs who don't have the brain capacity to pull off a successful move.

Of course, this doesn't pertain to any specific player, I'm just discussing "laning IQ" : )

[CynthiaCrescent]

There is:

1. Stall laning: You're looking at a lost lane. Your best hope is to not overextend because you would get caught off and die instantly. Tower hug, even tree hugs and sometimes resulting to give away the territorial advantage of the most outer tower and retreat to 2nd tier just to be safe.
2. Bulk laning: You think of no feasible way of out-laning an equally skilled opponent because of hero match ups or team support. Hug the tower, grab a sufficient amount of farm to not let behind on exp. Seize opportunities to squeeze in harass, because you can't be too conservative because it'd give the enemy too much room to tower dive.
3. Balanced laning: this is actually "defensive laning" when both sides stand on equal footing, but focus more on last hit and denies than actually killing the opponent, for it perhaps is unlikely depending on the match up. Aim is to gradually build up a constant snowball effect that transitions to a successful late early game or early mid game.
4. Offense laning: Where you go on the offensive, actively harass and deny while scraping the necessary last hits. Your aim is to shut down the opponent, not farming like in balanced, with smart use of spells and coordinations (if possible). However, this leaves you more exposed to counter ganking because you're the one hogging up the most ground and could be an easy target.
5. Hyper Offense laning: You disregard the creep wave more or less if you can force your dominance onto the opposing player. Harassing the opponent out of the creep wave and then comeback to farming. This is an extremely high risk strategy with little results, unless you can call for help, because going solo killing in a lane is far from easy. However, for this is the most offensive of all its killing potential is at the highest and should it succeed then it's basically a won lane from that point on.

Just different terms, don't need to get none of your panties up in a bunch.

[Claire Farron]

Originally Posted by Gray_Fox

Well, in my opinion.... Defensive laning is for spineless noobs who don't have the brain capacity to pull off a successful move.

Of course, this doesn't pertain to any specific player, I'm just discussing "laning IQ" : )

Same thought here.

[YajirobeFromDC]

Originally Posted by CynthiaCrescent

There is:

1. Stall laning: You're looking at a lost lane. Your best hope is to not overextend because you would get caught off and die instantly. Tower hug, even tree hugs and sometimes resulting to give away the territorial advantage of the most outer tower and retreat to 2nd tier just to be safe.
2. Bulk laning: You think of no feasible way of out-laning an equally skilled opponent because of hero match ups or team support. Hug the tower, grab a sufficient amount of farm to not let behind on exp. Seize opportunities to squeeze in harass, because you can't be too conservative because it'd give the enemy too much room to tower dive.
3. Balanced laning: this is actually "defensive laning" when both sides stand on equal footing, but focus more on last hit and denies than actually killing the opponent, for it perhaps is unlikely depending on the match up. Aim is to gradually build up a constant snowball effect that transitions to a successful late early game or early mid game.
4. Offense laning: Where you go on the offensive, actively harass and deny while scraping the necessary last hits. Your aim is to shut down the opponent, not farming like in balanced, with smart use of spells and coordinations (if possible). However, this leaves you more exposed to counter ganking because you're the one hogging up the most ground and could be an easy target.
5. Hyper Offense laning: You disregard the creep wave more or less if you can force your dominance onto the opposing player. Harassing the opponent out of the creep wave and then comeback to farming. This is an extremely high risk strategy with little results, unless you can call for help, because going solo killing in a lane is far from easy. However, for this is the most offensive of all its killing potential is at the highest and should it succeed then it's basically a won lane from that point on.

Just different terms, don't need to get none of your panties up in a bunch.

Great contribution, but defensive laning is much more complex than you're making it out to be.

It incorporates shell defending/spatial defending/range defense/parrying etc etc. It's great to learn it all.

The more one understands the different forms of laning, the better the DotA player he/she will be. But it requires a lot of hard work, dedication.

[YajirobeFromDC]

Originally Posted by DrB88

Wait.... I thought Ryze was a support player.

He is, but he is also a mid player in high tier leagues/pubs.

[Dwarrior92]

usually i focus on farming/denying, if im playing invoker might harass every now and then with coldsnap but otherthan that, but since i can deny most of the creeps, ill just outlvl them for the most part.