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Old 09-26-2012, 09:59 AM   #41
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Default Lore battles: Weaver, Wisp, Enigma and AA


chaos knight is the strongest of the fundamentals. whether the fundamentals are the strongest of all the heroes is obviously up for debate
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:00 AM   #42
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I think the point of this is chaos theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

And Choas knight was at start of all this chaos. )
Thats why Enigma thinks - Chaos knight is strongest.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:01 AM   #43
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:02 AM   #44
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chaos knight is the strongest of the fundamentals. whether the fundamentals are the strongest of all the heroes is obviously up for debate
Strong in what sense? As far as I can tell they can't surpass each other, so it may depend on their level of activity. Chaos Knight is on a constant crazy hunt, and Wisp is a lazy orb, so in that sense CK may be more powerful...
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:28 AM   #45
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its a physics thing. when you're older, you'll understand
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:49 AM   #46
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Default Re: Lore battles: Weaver, Wisp, Enigma and AA

I think the heroes who should be up to this debate must be the four fundamentals namely, Wisp, Enigma, Chaos Knight and KotL who represents Creation, Darkness, Destruction and Light respectively.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:51 AM   #47
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I personally believe that fundamental are like rock paper scissors.

CK>KOTL>Enigma>Wisp>CK ...

Or something like that.

Weaver is not that strong on his own,his true strength was manipulating of strings,but he was kicked out.

AA shouldn't be strong enough at current moment,although he has greatest potential. It would be badass if he is some kind of "restart mechanism" of universe,like reverse phoenix.When he is strongest(universe stopped),he implodes in new big bang.Later he is born anew from his "ashes",in his weakest form.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:06 AM   #48
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its a physics thing. when you're older, you'll understand
I'm 19 and studying Physics, Chemistry and Biology from college as my main subjects.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:13 AM   #49
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I'm 19 and studying Physics, Chemistry and Biology from college as my main subjects.
The 4 fundamental forces of nature: Weak Force, Strong Force, Electromagnetic and Gravity.

In dev.dota2.com, we discussed about what force they would represent and came up with this:

Strong Force = Nessaj, the Chaos Knight
Weak Force = Io, the Guardian Wisp
Electromagnetic = Ezalor, the Keeper of the Light
Gravity = Darchrow, The Enigma (I don't think he has a name in Dota 2, just Enigma)
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:13 AM   #50
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Ok, just read this .

It turns that "strong force"(ck) is strongest,although short ranged. Electromagnetism(wisp) is little weaker,but it's omnipresent.Gravity is omnipresent as well,but it's MUCH weaker than rest.Weak force(Kotl) is both weaker,and has shorter range than strong.

Ofc,that only accounts for things we know atm.It possible that gravity inside of black hole is able to break weak/strong force.

/guy that don't know shit about quantum physic
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:14 AM   #51
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It's easy.

Invoker.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:09 PM   #52
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It's easy.

Invoker.
I don't think Invoker is the strongest of all. He was known as Arsenal Maguas back in the days until Rubick beat the crap out of him. He changes his name to Invoker since then.

If you look at Rubick's line, you'll know. I am actually waiting for an update on Invoker's line on how he would react to Rubick.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:17 PM   #53
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^invoker holds himself to such high esteem i doubt he would give rubick any credit for this and would still view him as completely below him.

also considering that there is no concrete proof that invoker was arsenal magus when rubick challenged the insubstantial 11. all it proves is that rubick was around at whatever time he was arsenal magus

and even if he was there, defeating 11 mages thru confusion (part of his success is they thought their friends were turning against them, something that doesnt happen in a 1v1) is not the same as fighting one on one. many of the mages were defeated by their own allies.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:04 PM   #54
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@DrFrank You have no idea what you are talking about, right?
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@DrFrank You have no idea what you are talking about, right?
Please continue insulting me, that might raise your esteem further among the rest of the posters.
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:07 PM   #56
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What makes you think a spirit had no mortal impersonation before?

They are spirits. They think, they act and they fight. But spirits are the creation of the mortal minds, while souls are the heart.

No spirit is born without a mastermind behind it.

And if that so called mastermind is dead, the spirit may exists further without body. AA is no excuse.
It's just my understanding of spirits, and that's yours.

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It's easy.

Invoker.
its true gais

Just look at the colours of Quas, Wex and Exort. Wisp, Enigma and CK. Invoker wears white, KotL is white.

Coincidence? I think not.

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"If light cannot escape me, what hope have you?"
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:24 PM   #58
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Strong Force = Nessaj, the Chaos Knight
Weak Force = Io, the Guardian Wisp
Electromagnetic = Ezalor, the Keeper of the Light
Gravity = Darchrow, The Enigma (I don't think he has a name in Dota 2, just Enigma)
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They represent:
KoTL:The weaker force(chased by CK)
CK:The stronger force
Wisp:Electromagnetic
Enigma:Gravity
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:35 PM   #59
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You guys do realise that AA represents the Big Freeze and is the end of the Universe?

Also weaver can alter reality so he might be possible to say fuck you to physics
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http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/7/7f/Doom_rival_05.mp3

I think this proves that doom is the most badass
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