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Old 02-04-2014, 04:32 PM   #1
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Is alcohol a magic water of life or is something related to the lifestyle?
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:29 PM   #2
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Every one knows that a low amount of alcohol a day is actually healthy . Nothing new
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Every one knows that a low amount of alcohol a day is actually healthy . Nothing new
Pretty much. A small glass of red wine daily has beneficial effects on your health; wholesale binging on cheap booze does not.
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Old 02-06-2014, 03:40 PM   #4
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Is alcohol a magic water of life or is something related to the lifestyle?
It's more of the case where something can be put to good use when used right, take some pills you might feel good, take them all and you're probably dead.
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Every one knows that a low amount of alcohol a day is actually healthy . Nothing new
Alcohol not, some kind of alcoholic drinks like wine, yes.
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It will take away your mind, how healthy is that?
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Old 02-07-2014, 04:28 AM   #7
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It will take away your mind, how healthy is that?
Oh lol she's back. Everyone prepare for some humor up in this section! What do you mean it takes away your mind? I've never even felt tipsy after a giant glass of wine.

@topic, how is news to anybody? Pretty sure everyone knows about the glass of red wine a day thing.
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Old 02-07-2014, 04:51 AM   #8
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It will take away your mind, how healthy is that?
Your religion explicitly forbids you from making decisions based on your own reason. How is that healthy?

OT: I thought this was well known. I'm not sure what effects it has on your body other than strengthening your liver, but I've heard this many times.
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:09 AM   #9
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I have been drinking beer my whole life and im 199 years old.

Btw, not to mention that in the 16,17th century, beer saved the life of many people (water was too contaminated to drink).

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It will take away your mind, how healthy is that?
If you drink very very much, it does, but if you drink only a little, that has many benefits. Can also prevent some cancer types.
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I'm not sure what effects it has on your body other than strengthening your liver, but I've heard this many times.
It strenghtens your liver and reduces the risk of a heart attack by allowing a better flow of blood in your body.

The good effects have only been proven after 60 years and the consumption doesn't have to exceed 1 or 2 glasses a day (and 11 units a week for women / 14 units a week for men).

These effects are valid for all kind of alcohol, wine has other benefits linked to the fruits used in its production.

In other words, alcohol, just like these forums is good with moderation.
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It's more of the case where something can be put to good use when used right, take some pills you might feel good, take them all and you're probably dead.
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since the invasion of america, your people have become drunk.(without drinking actually)
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:21 PM   #12
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:32 PM   #13
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Oh lol she's back. Everyone prepare for some humor up in this section! What do you mean it takes away your mind? I've never even felt tipsy after a giant glass of wine.

@topic, how is news to anybody? Pretty sure everyone knows about the glass of red wine a day thing.
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If you drink very very much, it does, but if you drink only a little, that has many benefits. Can also prevent some cancer types.
You drink and get drunk, you can't even think properly, how is that not take away your mind? Once you drink you get addicted, when you get addicted you want more and stronger. How long until it will dominate you and you become the worse person ever live on planet earth?

There are a lot of other healthy drinks, why want to drink that stuff?
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:38 PM   #14
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Note that the holy book doesn't deny the fact that wine have benifits.

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They ask you concerning wine and games of chance. Say, "In (both) is great vice, and profits for mankind; and the vice in them is greater than the profit." And they ask you (concerning) what (things) they should expend. Say, "Liberality." (Or: clemency) Thus, Allah makes evident the signs to you, that possibly you would meditate
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:42 PM   #15
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Many people seeking this stuff as escapism of their miserable life, some take drugs, but drugs is illegal. So they try drinking and thought it is cool, socialize, happy, "i am cool, look what i am drinking"...later they depended on it, whenever they got problem they will search for this drink, thinking that drinking will take their problem away...but it is only a short moment...they need stronger drink, and stronger...then they beat there wife or girlfriend, rape, drive and hit an old woman on the road....

It is all begin with the single sip of that drink...
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:48 PM   #16
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The problem with it is how addictive it is.
No matter how much one may think he is controlling himself, He will always end up drinking more than what he should.
And the consequences are like what you said.
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the problem is not the addiction, the problem is it takes away you mind, you no longer human and worse than animal when you drunk. You see how drunk people behave? they don't even aware of themselves, their family, their friends and anyone. they only follow the desires, if they desire sex, they no longer think who they want have sex with so they having sex with anyone come across them. Father could sex own daughter, mother could have sex with own son...that just example.

that drink destroy your life. Quit drinking before you regret for something you done and you can't even remember what you have done...
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Well, first, I don't drink.

The thing I want to make clear is that drinking in recommended quantities does not ruin your life.

The problem is that it isn't always possible to control yourself (you get addicted) which will cause you to drink more, get more drunk each time, and your behaviour will become negative.

If it wasn't addictive and stopping it was easy, it wouldn't be that destructive.

I agree with all what you said earlier of course.
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Old 02-08-2014, 01:57 PM   #19
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I drank beer a couple of times.

Does that make me an addict?
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There's nothing to even say to Nizaris, she doesn't even want to address other peoples' stances.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:47 PM   #21
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I drank beer a couple of times.

Does that make me an addict?
I don't know how much it takes to get addicted.
I however know that alcohol is addictive
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I don't know how much it takes to get addicted.
I however know that alcohol is addictive
Can be. Not everyone who consumes it gets addicted.
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As the study suggests, it isn't about alcohol strengthening the body, but people who drink more often being more social oriented and less prone to depression.
So in the end, just starting to drink alcohol because you think it will lengthen your life would be silly.
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I don't know how much it takes to get addicted.
I however know that alcohol is addictive
Almost everything is addictive. Doing too much of anything is a problem.
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Almost everything is addictive. Doing too much of anything is a problem.
Everything can be addictive like you said.
But not everything can have that much negative effects when someone get addicted to it.
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Almost everything is addictive. Doing too much of anything is a problem.
A chemical dependency is a lot different from a psychological one.
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A chemical dependency is a lot different from a psychological one.
Both can be hard to break from though. A chemical dependency physically and a psychological one emotionally.
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As the study suggests, it isn't about alcohol strengthening the body, but people who drink more often being more social oriented and less prone to depression.
So in the end, just starting to drink alcohol because you think it will lengthen your life would be silly.
This,especially in a country where drinking is the standard way for adults to have fun. I'm gonna bet that this study was conducted somewhere where drinking in general is allowed and is a part of socializing. The case is different in a country like, say the U.A.E., i wonder if arabs living there would have a longer life expectancy on average if they drank 1 cup of wine a day, we will probably never know, because it is forbidden to drink at all and it will always be considered out of the norm;therefore the social problem(isolation > Depression Z10 is talking about) would happen in REVERSE, i.e people who drink would be socially isolated instead of vice versa around the world.

In general arabs tend to socialize well with each other, since they mostly see each other briefly at least 5 times a day when they pray, not counting on other occasions.
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Implying arabs don't drink if they get the occasion, you'd be surprised to see rich arabs on holidays ^^
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Implying arabs don't drink if they get the occasion, you'd be surprised to see rich arabs on holidays ^^
I know ;p

But it doesn't happen much, even amongst arabs, especially the rich ones, lots of guys(whom i know) drink, sleep with russian prostitutes,etc.

Money and power tends to spoil people, that's why i love religion because it tends to make a person more humble,but that's another subject.

btw im in no way a holy man myself, i'm just enjoying my youth while being cautious untill i settle down with a wife, i don't want to give you the wrong idea.
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btw im in no way a holy man myself, i'm just enjoying my youth while being cautious untill i settle down with a wife, i don't want to give you the wrong idea.
Well you don't need to defend yourself, I'm not an atheist knight of some kind.

I don't hold much respect towards religions but I do know there are some cases where they really help people.

As long as religion isn't forced on me I can discuss with anybody.

But that's another topic and I don't want to derail that thread.
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Well you don't need to defend yourself, I'm not an atheist knight of some kind.

I don't hold much respect towards religions but I do know there are some cases where they really help people.

As long as religion isn't forced on me I can discuss with anybody.

But that's another topic and I don't want to derail that thread.
That's ok, to each their own,as long as we don't flame each other and keep it civil. There's no use in forcing religion on anyone, either you believe in it from your heart, or you don't.
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i never agree with alcohol.
it can really cause some problems so why risk it at the first place?
you don't need it at all
never say never who knows 1 day you can't think properly and you drive drunk and who knows what disasters can happen.better safe than sorry
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i never agree with alcohol.
it can really cause some problems so why risk it at the first place?
you don't need it at all
never say never who knows 1 day you can't think properly and you drive drunk and who knows what disasters can happen.better safe than sorry
If you drink TOO MUCH alcohol, it is unhealthy, but in LOW amount, it has medical benefits.
Otherwise, my grandpa lives at the countryside. He drinks a little brandy before breakfast, a small glass of wine before lunch and he is never ill (i mean cold). How is that possible?
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Is alcohol a magic water of life or is something related to the lifestyle?
Depends on the type of alcohol. They are like potions. You don't know whether it is an eternal life potion or a death potion.

Some alcohol can help in the production and flow of blood, and others can burn your mind into ashes (figuratively speaking).
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Depends on the type of alcohol. They are like potions. You don't know whether it is an eternal life potion or a death potion.

Some alcohol can help in the production and flow of blood, and others can burn your mind into ashes (figuratively speaking).
I guess he was talking bout ethyl-alcohol.
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Many people seeking this stuff as escapism of their miserable life, some take drugs, but drugs is illegal. So they try drinking and thought it is cool, socialize, happy, "i am cool, look what i am drinking"...later they depended on it, whenever they got problem they will search for this drink, thinking that drinking will take their problem away...but it is only a short moment...they need stronger drink, and stronger...then they beat there wife or girlfriend, rape, drive and hit an old woman on the road....

It is all begin with the single sip of that drink...
wow... I think your over doing it... not everyone does that and for the ones that do will do it regardless of wine. I was almost hit in 2009 and it was broad day light noone drinks at that time. They wanted to get past me before I made it across the street, they nearly hit me. People atleast where i live are selfish like that. there are a few people who will let you pass. Heck someone was letting me cross the street today and someone else tried to run me off the road while the other person let me cross. What my friend does when they do that is trap their car so they can't drive forward or nearly collides with them. Like i said ppl will be that way regardless if they have alcohol in them. all of those things. Have you ever watched the oxygen channel its loaded with stories of sober guys beating on their wives or ex-wives. O yea and guess what this friend drinks regularly and defends pedestrians when shes in her car.
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Alcohol gives you more energy than bread does.
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Alcohol gives you more energy than bread does.
But the organism has to clean it out from the blood, I don't see how it can give more energy than a normal edible food.
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But the organism has to clean it out from the blood, I don't see how it can give more energy than a normal edible food.
Vodka gives quite a bit of calories.
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