Originally Posted by Valorian
lol @ 'casual games'
watch the SSB crowd rage
the 1st party games are good, the only problem with WiiU atm is the lack of 3rd party games, but hey Bayonetta 2 exclusive!
looking forward to the WiiU Zelda, Hyrule Warriors, and most likely coming Metroid
I would say it is mostly a casual platform. My biggest problem with quite a few titles, the Zelda ones in particular, isn't that they have a "childish cartoony art style", but the fact that they're very easy and offer no challenge whatsoever.
SSB is mostly a casual game too, it however gave people the options that could be adjusted to make the game competitive. I kind of wish Nintendo would take the notes, that a game can be both have depth and still appeal to a casual audience.
Just look at it. Brawl came in. Wavedashing was a bug and you could say that removing it was okay. But they slowed the game all the way down
and ANYONE would've preferred SSB over Brawl, especially since the games were otherwise so similar anyway.
MK8? They just had to include that blue shell. Afaik the game doesn't have the item options that SSB does.
Sure it's been there around forever but at least in Double Dash it was rationalized somehow.
Agressive randomizing is used in casual games across the board even in FPS games (TF2 random crits, CoD delivery packages) to make the "casual players" feel better about themselves but there's a difference between creating a slot machine game with a little bit of gameplay and game with some randomness that ask player the awareness to quickly adapt the situation.
Even the biggest competitive scene ever existed, which was in SC:BW, was born through community effort. Blizzard couldn't made maps worth a crap until the community started making maps where you could block off the ramps with buildings.
That said, enjoyed xenoblade, was hoping they'd revamp the battle system a bit more for the gamepad (no more QTE B's) and you could have better party controls etc., but it's still probably a solid game. Bayonetta 2, tool. And I would, still, buy MK8 and probably W101.
Could buy the system for sub 200€ right now but it's only the basic and w/o games. Well, later on then.
Third parties have no reason to exist on the Wii U right now and nobody can really blame them. It's Nintendo's job to do the heavy lifting, and they did far less while demanding more when compared to the competitors.
Originally Posted by hankaung121
Any recommendations for PC gamepads?
360 pad is a rather safe choice. Receiver off ebay if you don't have one.