¿A basic hero?

CharlizeTheron · 08-13-2012, 05:05 AM

Hi!

I'm having troubles winning games, i don't know with what hero start learning this game, can you guys suggest me a simple and easy to understand hero?

In others games i love to support, so if it is a support hero, the better.

Thanks

ShowThemHell · 08-13-2012, 05:07 AM

Practise with bots first (Duh), learn the heroes, roles (If you want to play support, learn how to ward too) by guides and videos.

I would suggest Orge Magi for you.

Mtndew · 08-13-2012, 05:11 AM

Windrunner
Lich
Venomancer

Buy wards. Stack then pull creeps. Harrass the enemy heroes in your lane. Deny your creeps. Pay attention to the map.

Once you got these things down, then you'll understand one thing: play a carry or you'll lose because you'll never be matched with adequate players.

CasualPubbie · 08-13-2012, 05:18 AM

Lion, Lich and Venomancer are probably the easiest Supports to use
Chen, Visage and Ancient Apparition are probably the hardest Supports to use

csoff · 08-13-2012, 05:26 AM

Skeleton king, sniper.

john_wilan · 08-13-2012, 05:33 AM

You must understand the game itself to win. Some heroes I can suggest for new players would be Dragon Knight and Ursa.

WaruAthena · 08-13-2012, 05:52 AM

Ehhh.

The easiest hero to use I would say Skeleton King. Just slam them with your stun and right click to victory.

The easiest support however..

Rylai - AoE nuke, Entangle, a nice mana aura and a huge boomstorm around you for her ultimate.

Ogre - Spam all his skills, finish.

Lion - Stun, disable, mana refill and probe of death.

Warlock's not that hard too, he has a heal, one almost useless skill and another skill you click on heroes to bond them together. Ultimate summons a bigass golem on fire.

King Murdoc · 08-13-2012, 05:57 AM

Bloodseeker is by far the best noob hero. He has an excellent attack animation, is relevant at all stages of the game, and teaches good habits like lasthitting and denying, ganking, using spells situationally, and a little bit of mana management without being unforgiving.

Skeleton King is actually not that noob friendly. He requires you to be extremely careful with your mana, has a slower animation than a few melee carries, and lacks farming ability, plus his ultimate can be useless if you are ganked.

Krytone · 08-13-2012, 07:20 AM

knowing what your enemy can do can also help you in your games. Do a lot of reading and bot matches.

InvokerofTime · 08-13-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Krytone

knowing what your enemy can do can also help you in your games. Do a lot of reading and bot matches.

dont touch bots with a barge pole

also i wouldnt go for lich, he's surprisingly difficult for beginners

id go for lion just remember dont attack ANY enemy creeps during first 20 min, and remember to deny/atk enemy hero

Bernoully · 08-13-2012, 08:37 AM

Go for Ogre Magi, playing him teaches you the importance of working with your teammates.

Dalailama · 08-13-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bernoully

Go for Ogre Magi, playing him teaches you the importance of working with your teammates.

If you are looking for a basic hero and are playing at a low lvl, I doubt you'll find working with teammates very useful.

ShowThemHell · 08-13-2012, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalailama

If you are looking for a basic hero and are playing at a low lvl, I doubt you'll find working with teammates very useful.

But Orge Magi is still the best hero for the beginners.

DrOwenMaestro · 08-13-2012, 02:27 PM

LICH IS THE ANSWER

Skill your E skill and use it to deny your creeps before they get close to opponents. Keep the armor skill up on yourself and any allies near you. Press R when there is a teamfight and deal enormous damage. That's really all of the advice you need to play him. You can buy the courier too because lich doesn't really need items.

Lich has big positive impacts even with very little effort.

Dark Rogue · 08-13-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WaruAthena

Warlock's not that hard too, he has a heal, one almost useless skill and another skill you click on heroes to bond them together. Ultimate summons a bigass golem on fire.

You mean he has an amazing slow, one completely useless skill and another skill you click on heroes to bond them together.

CharlizeTheron · 08-13-2012, 07:10 PM

Thanks for the help guys!

Inreet · 08-13-2012, 07:25 PM

Wow. Everyone in this thread has its own definition of "the easiest hero".

nothingbutcold. · 08-13-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Inreet

Wow. Everyone in this thread has its own definition of "the easiest hero".

because playstyles differ.

go for Lich.

Aircross · 08-13-2012, 08:46 PM

Lich is easy for beginners as you literally have to put effort into doing badly with him if you want to fail with Lich.

Frost Blast is great harass.
Put Ice Armor on auto-cast and forget about it.
Sacrifice your own creeps to deny and never run out of mana.
Use Chain Frost when the enemies are clumped up together.

FMArthur · 08-14-2012, 12:15 AM

You cannot build a shitty Lion. You can play it like trash and you can make poor item choices, but at the end of the day he's one of the only heroes in the game that actually comes with everything he needs. Two fucking sweet disables and mana refills means that a 0 items Lion can still cruise around lategame and support other heroes just fine.

08-13-2012, 05:05 AM	#1
CharlizeTheron Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2	¿A basic hero? Hi! I'm having troubles winning games, i don't know with what hero start learning this game, can you guys suggest me a simple and easy to understand hero? In others games i love to support, so if it is a support hero, the better. Thanks

08-13-2012, 05:07 AM	#2
ShowThemHell Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: The internet, spreading my bullshit. Posts: 5,687 Blog Entries: 2	Re: ¿A basic hero? Practise with bots first (Duh), learn the heroes, roles (If you want to play support, learn how to ward too) by guides and videos. I would suggest Orge Magi for you. __________________ Space for good music Dota 2 achievements suggestion !!!

08-13-2012, 05:11 AM	#3
Mtndew Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 115	Re: ¿A basic hero? Windrunner Lich Venomancer Buy wards. Stack then pull creeps. Harrass the enemy heroes in your lane. Deny your creeps. Pay attention to the map. Once you got these things down, then you'll understand one thing: play a carry or you'll lose because you'll never be matched with adequate players.

08-13-2012, 05:18 AM	#4
CasualPubbie Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Heaven Posts: 1,781 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ¿A basic hero? Lion, Lich and Venomancer are probably the easiest Supports to use Chen, Visage and Ancient Apparition are probably the hardest Supports to use __________________ The Holy Trio Wisp x CK Shotgun Waternigger Examining a Chest Axe too OP Dota Kart

08-13-2012, 05:26 AM	#5
csoff Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 97	Re: ¿A basic hero? Skeleton king, sniper. __________________

08-13-2012, 05:57 AM	#8
King Murdoc Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Shayol Ghul Posts: 3,134 Blog Entries: 2	Re: ¿A basic hero? Bloodseeker is by far the best noob hero. He has an excellent attack animation, is relevant at all stages of the game, and teaches good habits like lasthitting and denying, ganking, using spells situationally, and a little bit of mana management without being unforgiving. Skeleton King is actually not that noob friendly. He requires you to be extremely careful with your mana, has a slower animation than a few melee carries, and lacks farming ability, plus his ultimate can be useless if you are ganked.

08-13-2012, 07:20 AM	#9
Krytone Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 197	Re: ¿A basic hero? knowing what your enemy can do can also help you in your games. Do a lot of reading and bot matches.

08-13-2012, 08:37 AM	#11
Bernoully Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: 3rd Density Terra Posts: 1,547	Re: ¿A basic hero? Go for Ogre Magi, playing him teaches you the importance of working with your teammates. __________________

08-13-2012, 02:27 PM	#14
DrOwenMaestro Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 390	Re: ¿A basic hero? LICH IS THE ANSWER Skill your E skill and use it to deny your creeps before they get close to opponents. Keep the armor skill up on yourself and any allies near you. Press R when there is a teamfight and deal enormous damage. That's really all of the advice you need to play him. You can buy the courier too because lich doesn't really need items. Lich has big positive impacts even with very little effort.

08-13-2012, 07:10 PM	#16
CharlizeTheron Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2	Re: ¿A basic hero? Thanks for the help guys!

08-13-2012, 07:25 PM	#17
Inreet Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 4,713	Re: ¿A basic hero? Wow. Everyone in this thread has its own definition of "the easiest hero".

08-13-2012, 08:46 PM	#19
Aircross Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,826	Re: ¿A basic hero? Lich is easy for beginners as you literally have to put effort into doing badly with him if you want to fail with Lich. Frost Blast is great harass. Put Ice Armor on auto-cast and forget about it. Sacrifice your own creeps to deny and never run out of mana. Use Chain Frost when the enemies are clumped up together. __________________ Steam Hard Supporter Suggestions Heroes: Mechanics: Psionic Trap's treatment on Bounty Hunter's Track.

08-14-2012, 12:15 AM	#20
FMArthur Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,466	Re: ¿A basic hero? You cannot build a shitty Lion. You can play it like trash and you can make poor item choices, but at the end of the day he's one of the only heroes in the game that actually comes with everything he needs. Two fucking sweet disables and mana refills means that a 0 items Lion can still cruise around lategame and support other heroes just fine. __________________ ...and your signature is ugly and obnoxious.