Necrolyte Needs a Buff

[Ari~]

I think the aura needs to be better at least.

[Floryda]

Necrolyte is weak at the moment. and has been weak for a very long time. The attack range nerf wasn't necessary

[Ari~]

I think his aura needs to be reverted back to its previous form. Back to the diffusion aura.

[tehMarkerer]

I don't know he isn't viable at all you can just spam the skulls but the AOE is so small and the CD even if it's low is still not enough and the damage doesn't cut... The Ulti is pretty good I wouldn't change that but other things ? Jezz just change one of his passive for example the mana passive or something x_X

[Floryda]

Originally Posted by Ari~

I think his aura needs to be reverted back to its previous form. Back to the diffusion aura.

might be a good idea. His aura barely does any damage and it's almost completely useless. During the laning phase it's not worth leveling. In mid-late game teamfights don't last long enough for the aura to do noticable damage

I remember when a half year ago or so a guy suggested to buff the aura and everyone was like "BUT IT ALREADY DOES SO MUCH DAMAGE"

[Ari~]

I hate the bullshit posts that will say "Diffusion Aura is OP", if VS can have command aura, Necro should have Diffusion Aura.

[SanKakU]

user is on ignore list, but by thread title i guess what he is saying:

"waaaaaah...icefroggy! i suck at necrolyte! i can't beat the bots with him even though i played against them three times! isn't it 'three times the charm' instead of 'practice makes perfect(as can be)'? and my opponents and allies are always so mean when i pick him! i always try to heal my allies and then i get killed. i run out of mana constantly and then i consequently run out of health! nothing goes right! i'm pretty sure the hero needs a huge overhaul, or at the very least some rebalancing so that i can actually use him without bothering to learn how to play how he is now."

necrolyte is fine as he is, he's just widely misunderstood. players refuse to acknowledge how to properly play him, keep playing him the same way, and lose and blame the hero rather than themselves, while other players win games with him and get good kill counts.

1) death pulse. mana cost increases with level. players max it out too fast. players would rather heal an ally than damage an enemy. the spell does more damage to an enemy than how much it heals your ally.

2) heartstopper. players don't keep enemies in range, so the ability does next to nothing. players don't level it up early, which is a mistake because it's their primary source of damage.

3) sadist. does almost nothing until you buy a force staff or kill with your ultimate. yet players max it out relatively early. bad call.

4) reaper's scythe. players use it only to kill steal, which is slightly incorrect use of it. you're supposed to use it to secure a kill. it stuns for 1 full second before dealing damage. this means that any damage your allies can do in that 1 second will also make the difference in the damage calculation for your ultimate. using this spell while having sadist learned will restore your mana, yet players refuse to use the spell because they'd rather heal their allies with their remaining mana(even buying mek to exacerbate the problem). if they just used the ultimate, they'd get the mana needed to use their heal. they'd also earn an urn of shadows charge, which is far more useful than a mek, which they buy even though it's crap on intelligence heroes, which don't have enough health to make full use of the heal and the armor bonus.

[omegadon3]

Just buy s&y I heard it was op. Obviously the movespeed and tank synergize well with necro's low range abilities. The cripple ability is also very effective. Its like a ranged entangle.

[Ari~]

Originally Posted by SanKakU

user is on ignore list, but by thread title i guess what he is saying:

"waaaaaah...icefroggy! i suck at necrolyte! i can't beat the bots with him even though i only played against them twice! and my opponents and allies are always so mean when i pick him! i always try to heal my allies and then i get killed. i run out of mana constantly and then i consequently run out of health! nothing goes right! i'm pretty sure the hero needs a huge overhaul, or at the very least some rebalancing so that i can actually use him without bothering to learn how to play how he is now."

necrolyte is fine as he is, he's just widely misunderstood. players refuse to acknowledge how to properly play him, keep playing him the same way, and lose and blame the hero rather than themselves, while other players win games with him and get good kill counts.

I have a ~60% winrate with Necrolyte in Dota 2, but if you cannot accept that a hero needs a buff you are a retard.

[ShowThemHell]

Originally Posted by Floryda

might be a good idea. His aura barely does any damage and it's almost completely useless. During the laning phase it's not worth leveling. In mid-late game teamfights don't last long enough for the aura to do noticable damage

I remember when a half year ago or so a guy suggested to buff the aura and everyone was like "BUT IT ALREADY DOES SO MUCH DAMAGE"

Time changed. About half year ago, it's all about, turtling, 2 teams often stand face to face each other without actually doing something.

Now they just jump in and kill everything.

[Floryda]

Originally Posted by ShowThemHell

Time changed. About half year ago, it's all about, turtling, 2 teams often stand face to face each other without actually doing something.

Now they just jump in and kill everything.

lol no. That was 2 years ago. Half year ago Necro was just as weak as he's now

[Sentry_ward]

Originally Posted by Ari~

I have a ~60% winrate with Necrolyte in Dota 2, but if you cannot accept that a hero needs a buff you are a retard.

Only a genius would respond to someone that stated he is ignoring said genius in the first line of his post

[ShowThemHell]

Originally Posted by Floryda

lol no. That was 2 years ago. Half year ago Necro was just as weak as he's now

Wtf, 2 years?

Damn it, i'm getting old.

[bloodchowz]

necro death pulse and ulti needs damage buffs

[GrynSun]

Originally Posted by Ari

I hate the bullshit posts that will say "Diffusion Aura is OP", if VS can have command aura, Necro should have Diffusion Aura.

whats diffusion aura? some old skill he had once?

OT: In theory his skills fit each other good, heartstopper making hp lower, scythe killing low hp heroes and sadist giving him mp for kills, but in actual play that isnt the case. Heartstopper aura and/or sadist need some change.

Also he has very poor attack damage, going mid with him and last hitting/denying is quite hard, and death pulse isnt spamable for lasthitting at all, unless u have bottle and crow.

[Millennium]

Originally Posted by Ari~

I have a ~60% winrate with Necrolyte in Dota 2, but if you cannot accept that a hero needs a buff you are a retard.

Hey Ari, sorry for the off-topic question but...

Why do you have to be an absolute douchebag 90% of the time? Whenever I see you around, It's like I'm reading the posts of a girl with chronic PMS syndrome.

[5chneemensch]

Sadist is just shit.

Needs a remake.

[Inreet]

This thread has so much sense. This is indeed the best I've recently seen.

You can put any other sentence and the meaning won't change. If you have any proper suggestion post it on Remakes sub-forum.

[Grubi]

>ignore list

Anyway I would really like to see his attack range buffed back to 600, why would I ever play him atm when I can play Krob and stomps pubs like old Necro did.

[Manwhale4]

ok to need a buff necro would have to be both of these: A) never used in competitve (check) B) UP or OP in pubs (check) if necrolyte is as powerful as people that disagree with the buff say then i see no reason he isnt played in Competitve, he has a gr8 pushing skill, with proper cs he has never ending mana, HS aura makes him a gr8 laner, btw this is true it is very annoying to play against a necro that from lvl 1 makes aura aslong as hes in range of u you lose a dectn amount od hp per second forcing u to eat tangoes or buy sime unnecceasry regen items, and his ulti which can easily turn a 5v5 into a 4v5 without any real effort. the problem is he isnt that strong he needs items to much to not solo mid whilst mid should be rather used for invoker or tinker heroes that need those early levels to rape.

Now do u still think Necro is balanced??

Of topic i was here post diffusion aura what was it used for??