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Old 11-14-2009, 02:26 PM   #1
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Default [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden


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Her stats are the same, they won't be changed.

Story: Adept in the manipulation of frost and ice, Rylai is the very image of elegeance and grace. Trained by a renegade wizard deep in the heart of Winterspring, Rylai brings to the Sentinel her prowess in the arts of magic. With a vast arsenal of spells, she can create frozen paths to approach her enemies in order to render them immobile in ice. Her foes tremble in fear as the ground beneath implodes in mighty novas of frost in a dazzling array, obliterating all who dare oppose her.

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Frozen Path

Rylai creates a path of ice as she slides on it, moving to a target location. Enemies that pass through the wall will be slowed and will take damage over time. The wall lasts 5 seconds.

Mana Cost: 100/110/130/140
Cooldown: 32/27/22/18 seconds

Level 1- 600 Range. 15% slow and 20 damage over 3 seconds.
Level 2- 800 Range. 20% slow and 30 damage over 3 seconds.
Level 3- 1000 Range. 25% slow and 40 damage over 3 seconds.
Level 4- 1200 Range. 30% slow and 50 damage over 3 seconds.


Comments: a mix of Storm's Ult + Invoker's Ice Wall. Rylai moves fast to a target location and as she moves, an Ice Path is created. She will slide on this Ice Path at 1600 movespeed. Frozen Path's slow stacks with Freezing Field's.

ILLUSTRATION

The hero animation is like when she casts her Ult. Of course, this arrow is just to illustrate.
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Frostbite

Freezes the target in a case of ice, prohibiting movement and attacking. Deals 70 damage per second. Can be casted on Rylai herself for a spell block and a 70 hp/sec heal.

Mana Cost: 115/125/140/150
Cooldown: 10 seconds

Level 1- Lasts 1.5 seconds.
Level 2- Lasts 2 seconds.
Level 3- Lasts 2.5 seconds.
Level 4- Lasts 3 seconds.


Comments: now if Rylai casts this spell on herself, she will block the first disable spell (hex, stun, ensnare, shackles, sleep...) that targets her during 1.5/2/2.5/3 seconds and will gain a 70 hp/sec heal.
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Brilliance Aura

Gives additional mana regeneration to all friendly units on the entire map.

Passive

Level 1- Adds 0.5 mana regeneration.
Level 2- Adds 1.0 mana regeneration.
Level 3- Adds 1.5 mana regeneration.
Level 4- Adds 2.0 mana regeneration.


Comments: the same skill
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Freezing Field

Causes many random icy explosions in an area surrounding Rylai. Enemy units in the Freezing Field are slowed. Lasts 4 seconds.

Mana Cost: 300/400/600
Cooldown: 150/120/90 seconds

Level 1 - Each explosion deals 105 damage. (*170)
Level 2 - Each explosion deals 170 damage. (*250)
Level 3 - Each explosion deals 250 damage. (*310)


Comments: now that all skills synergize with Freezing Field, I don't need to change this skill.
I'll also suggest a change in her attack missile. This suggestion is from this thread: http://www.playdota.com/forums/18050...rystal-maiden/ *, which is very nice.







*All credits to Silwerwing
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:44 PM   #2
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

Woah!! Amazing!
But the third skill surely needs a little nerf ;P
btw, awesome suggestion, congratz!
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Old 11-14-2009, 03:20 PM   #3
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very nice.
t-up
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:14 PM   #4
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

Thanks for the comments. More feedback, please.
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:23 PM   #5
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

T-DOWN!
CM is epic. Don't touch her!
Rework your suggestion and make a new hero... but let CM as she is!
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:21 PM   #6
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

Unneeded, seriously.
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:30 PM   #7
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

The new first and the third skill together just spells imbalanced. Add in the ultimate and you have a combo that can't be stopped outside of having a BKB. Hmmm... it needs more balance but having a blink and magic immunity afterward is just too much, even on an INT hero.
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Old 11-15-2009, 12:43 AM   #8
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

T-up for first skill it's awesome free dagger, an increase in damage by 25 or duration by 1-2 sec
T-up for new attack animation its suits her description more more
T-down for 3rd skill, always liked this skill. free aura that can be acquires by carrying a ring of basillus (no brilliance aura = no spamming/nuking)

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the 3rd seems to be a potential in new heroes (hey what about anti mage having this instead of spell shield but with lower durations and it is only activated after he has been damaged by a spell to balance things)
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:32 AM   #9
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

What if I change Magic Detection to her old Brilliance Aura?
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:37 AM   #10
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

because she is fine.
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Old 11-15-2009, 03:03 PM   #11
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

I just like 2nd and ulti remake.
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:17 PM   #12
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seriously, T-up. She would be more picked in pubs now )
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:27 PM   #13
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

I really suggest tweaking magic immunity on that 3rd skill.

May I suggest the numbers .5/1/1.5/2?

Oh man, I like this remake, makes her a lot more fun

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Old 11-22-2009, 12:33 PM   #14
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

T-up. she's really weak now, considering her frostbite can be orbwalked by orbwalkers like ench,silencer,viper, etc.
she always get pinned down the moment she gets to touch her ulti.
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Old 11-22-2009, 03:24 PM   #15
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

t-up! i lyk d 1st skill very much!
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:53 PM   #16
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

Magic Detection is pretty well, T-Up
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Old 11-23-2009, 06:10 AM   #17
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

I think its a great idea, I love the synergy

But. I doubt it could work politically, people love CM way too much.
So maybe you could make a completely new hero or something, mess with the visuals here and there change ice to steel or whatever.
Why waste a great idea right?
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:13 AM   #18
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

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In my opinion this hero is very weak, boring to play and her Ult is a joke because of her fragility. With this remake, I'll try to make her fun to play, a little less weak with a escaping/approaching skill. Now her skills also have kind of synergy. Let's start.
REMOVE THAT PART PLEASE!!!

It'll make reader think you're underestimate rylai's power....

For the remake, I like your idea. But I prefer 1st skill to have lower range with greater damage...
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:50 PM   #19
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Rylai Crestfall, the Crystal Maiden

T-DOWN!! CM IS IMBA *For me*
she is the most useful hero in epic type of game such Captain Mode, 1st *SLOW* 2nd *STUN+Imba Damage* 3rd *Global Mana regen* ultimate *Big AOE NUKES*

but i luv the changes made by CM attack animation..that the only thing that i supported~
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:43 AM   #20
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Comments: now it has 225 AoE and enemies can't cast spells. It lasts 2 seconds (from 3) and deals 90/150/210/280 (from 140/140/210/210).
Yes, that sounds balanced. Let's buff an already powerful spell by giving it AOE, SILENCE, and MORE DAMAGE. But the kicker is that the one thing you nerfed about it is the thing that people get Frostbite for: the movement disable. Just a very strange and dumb remake for that spell at least. I also dislike that you removed brilliance aura, taking away from her supportive side.
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