Originally Posted by TaxmanD
Cause hood is awesome, only noobs use vanguard, hood + vit boost (heart upgrade later), in pudge case, I'd go hood, point booster ogre axe (for aghanim later). Vanguard is gay, just like lothar and battlefury, noobs love getting useless items.
Battlefury is not a noob item, it's a incorrectly used item, you should get it as your third or fourth item (after str threads,poor man's shield,and bottle(if you're mid)) so you can push 2.5 times faster, and creep fast ONLY if you're getting ganked almost every 2-5 minutes since you're the main carry, that way you can creep fast and back before they get to you, it also gives you damage,mana regeneration which is awesome for lot of carries which lack of mana and can not afford to get a mana item since they lose time.
however if you get it AFTER your 3rd core item (such like getting threads , basher,madness and THEN getting battlefury) (void build for no0bs)
then it's useless.
now.. about vanguard..
vanguard isn't a noob item either, it's a NICE item which works like this..
in the game you got 3 CORE 2k around cost of HP items
JANGO,VANGUARD and HOOD.
VANGUARD works against FAST HITTING heroes, since it gives you HP to survive + Blocks damage per hit.
then.. HOOD works Awesomely well against magic heroes, however don't confuse this with PURE damage like OD's orb..
and then you have JANGO which most noobs get because they think they're pro just cuse they don't know how it works, Jango is a very good item for initiators and AGAINST heroes which use BOTH damage, hit damage + magic damage (such like nevermore). since it ONLY gives you HP which is good for both stuff (magic and hit damage) + it gives you a little of armor, mana and damage..
but anyways if you're against a hero which only does hit you (such like void) get vanguard.
if you're against a hero which uses magic damage, like dark seer, get hood..
and if you're against a hero which uses both damages (such like Nevermore) get Jango.
if you're an initiator you can also get it.
there are always alternatives such like mekasm (for supports) instead of getting one of the other 3 items.
and if you wanna build fast get only an item like reaver (if you're creeping fucking fast), or point booster (if you wanna finish battlefury REALLY quick,and you get items like normal boots +point booster) instead of str boots + poor man's shield..
lothars is only good for kunkka, getting it on nevermore is stupid since he can creep ethereal blade really fast if he doesn't get lothars and instead gets dagger.
i hope i've clearled most of your questions.