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Old 11-15-2009, 03:14 AM   #1
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Default [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage


Currently Chemical Rage is kind of countered from Negative Percentage-based Regeneration(Heartstopper Aura, Feast, Armlet, etc.). I think that rather than giving him a 1050 Health, how about giving strength for the duration instead? That way he has a bit more damage.
Level 1 : 350 HP --> 18 Str(342 HP).
Level 2 : 700 HP --> 37 Str(703 HP)
Level 3 : 1050 HP --> 55 Str(1045 HP)

My suggestion is just changing the bonus HP into Bonus Strength, in other words, regeneration bonus, MS Bonus, and anything else is still in the skill itself. I forgot to add that when in Chemical Rage state, Alchemist gains immunity to Negative Regeneration.
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Old 11-15-2009, 03:35 AM   #2
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

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Currently Chemical Rage is kind of countered from Negative Percentage-based Regeneration(Heartstopper Aura, Feast, Armlet, etc.). .
I read that three times but I don't see how those skills counter Chemical Rage. If I am not mistaken, Chemical Rage boosts his regeneration by a lot to "counteract" many of the those skills (Armlet and Rage = no degeneration). Still, the remake does boost it his damage but he doesn't need any more regen.
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:15 AM   #3
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

I meant by counter is it blocks or reduces a lot the bonus regeneration.
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:19 AM   #4
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

T-up, +55 damage is a good buff.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:43 AM   #5
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

you meant that he was countered from earth splitter,feast,heartstopper like the example:

he has 2000 and chemical raged 1050 which is the total of 3050,you will deal 30.5 damage from heartstopper aura every seconds.

,+55 is good.
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:36 AM   #6
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T-up dude 55 damage is always good on Alch
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:46 AM   #7
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

+Reduced base attack cooldown, and now + damage?
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:30 PM   #8
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

hmm...as Dynes said, this type of Chemical Rage will make Alchemist the scariest tower pusher...
this will encourage Alchemist into a Str carry hero and might change his gameplay style...

if you want, compensate it with some nerfs on other aspects
like increase the mana cost or something...
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:44 PM   #9
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

t-up
if this is implemented
i think 3rd skill would be remade
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Old 11-21-2009, 02:45 PM   #10
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yes, smart change... only one notice: for aesthetics... +20/40/50 STR ... but anyway its good idea. T-Up
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:05 PM   #11
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

Great idea. Alchemist barely has any role other than support Early - Middle game. This would promote more agrro

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Old 11-21-2009, 06:58 PM   #12
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

IMO very very big buff T-UP or T-DOWN hmm maeby less buff +15str +30str +50str and aghanim +60str?
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:45 PM   #13
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

The idea is kind of nice but this will make Centaur Warchief a shittier hero if you compare their ultis.

Centaur's ulti +36 STR at lvl3 that's it... I know it is at all times but chemical rage can be used very frequently.

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Old 11-21-2009, 10:41 PM   #14
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

Alch will be a one of scariest hero but i vote to null for now
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:46 PM   #15
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

Do this for Sven too. S:

and btw about alchs rage YouTube - DotA Allstars Alchemist Tribute
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Old 11-22-2009, 01:01 AM   #16
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

Err... How about reducing the Chemical Rage duration or prolong the cooldown?
Like for 15 seconds at all levels, and 20 seconds with scepter? Cooldown from 45 seconds into 60 seconds. Or just increase the manacost?
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:12 AM   #17
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

I like the remake, but alch is only good when enraged, actually you cant kill him while hes enraged, a buff to a powerful skill?
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Old 05-15-2010, 01:22 PM   #18
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:04 PM   #19
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

t-up, he needs that hard.
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:08 PM   #20
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Default Re: [Buff]Alchemist's Chemical Rage

Kinda good, but T-Up only if cooldown prolonged, together with reduced duration and increased mana cost. It would be too IMBA if you get damage boost and Base Attack Time reducement together.
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