Originally Posted by elnio
Ok, I read the whole tread, and this is the only time I agree with you about Necro. Necro is good, it is just you and the folks who read this probably cannot control 4-5 units perfectly at the same time. pro players.... lets just ignore them, they can do anything.
actually I would likely recommend most pub players against necro for any hero, even for rexxar, lion or whatever because they just suck at micro.
the only case I use necro is for panda. I know this is, well, you call it the nubest idea, but, cast macro, cast ulti and then just suicide attack to the tower, who the heck care about micro =]] I play just for fun so calling me pub or nub is just fine.
edit:for the remaining pub player, getting necro is fine. you know why? you are thinking for nub but not as nub. there are folks that is so new to dota that to figure out how to buy agahnim may cost them 10 minutes of running around the map to look at the shops and forever to get enough 2700 gold to buy the mystic staff. this is the reason s&y is usually the first lev 3 (the old way to call it) a newbie can learn how to assemble. necro is about as easy to buy and build as s&y. I don't really think a true nub can use ward and dust....
that's all I want to say about necro.... man... i remember just 1 week after i started to play dota, farming butterfly for void costed me 40 minutes in the jungle playing with fellow nubs who do not how to navigate to jungle yet. It was 6.14....
Hmhm... that's not my point, acutally. ^^
It is right, new players may be overextend with controlling too much units, but if you are learning DotA you have to get used to it.
Right, a guide is mainly for new players who don't know all aspects of an hero, but that does not keep them from practising their micro.
At least if they want to play Chen or other certain heroes.
My point is:
Rexxar and Atropos are 'fire and forget' heroes to a certain extent. You can't do much after using your ultimate and the other active damage spell.
Also, are not really item dependant or have at least no other items which would be better for them (VERY important point).
I would never ever suggest to skip Necro on Atropos or Rexxar because it's core even if the worst player controls the hero.
But regarding Chen...
You have to constantly micro your creeps and keep your hero out of danger because of your paper HP.
You should not farm very much but if you have money, you should spend it for items which are more important to your team, namely Wards and Mekansm because you absolutely need it.
Aghanims is the extension to this.
Necronomicon is more useful the earlier you get it, but the time you CAN get it will be at best around the 30-40min mark and that's just too late for Necro1 or 2.
Btw. Regarding 6.66:
Doom seems to become a ever better counter to Chen. As if it wasn't enough that he can eat your creeps and silence you forever, now he can take the abilities of your creeps and use them against you.
I'm really worried about Doom now, acutally. ^^
But that's the only change that affects Chen in some way. Nothing really exciting.