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Old 11-22-2009, 03:47 PM   #1
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Default [IMPLEMENTED] [VISUAL] Mortred's Illusions


As the title says, you could guess what I'm gonna propose =)
  • It's really pissed off when Mortred gets an Illusion Rune or if someone gets Manta on her (lol) coz it's obvious to tell who the real Mortred is once she learns Blur +_+..
  • The same problem of Tiny's Grow and his Illusions was solved, hopefully, Mortred could have this also..
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Current Mortred's Illusions
This is how the user and Enemies see
This is how Allies see
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Tiny's Illusions
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Outcome
I did this with -test -ap - noherolimit and three PAs The real one could be detected by the user by the green circle
This is how the user and Enemies see
This is how Allies see
Thank you..!! Love to hear from you guys =)
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Old 11-22-2009, 03:58 PM   #2
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED] [VISUAL] Mortred's Illusions

The problem is, its also hard for allies to see witch is the real one. Imagin you die because Omni healed illu... Sure, it is necessary to make them 'real' illus but I don't know if it is good.
 
Old 11-22-2009, 04:06 PM   #3
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The problem is, its also hard for allies to see witch is the real one. Imagin you die because Omni healed illu... Sure, it is necessary to make them 'real' illus but I don't know if it is good.
Currently, Mortred is fully visible to allies..
Who "don't see" her are enemies and the user himself..
if we can do it, her illusions will be fully visible to allies, too
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:20 PM   #4
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Currently, Mortred is fully visible to allies..
Who "don't see" her are enemies and the user himself..
if we can do it, her illusions will be fully visible to allies, too
this is correct. if it would be implemented, they'd see 2 blue transparent PA's.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:44 PM   #5
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED] [VISUAL] Mortred's Illusions

I will add a pic of view from allies tomorrow, gotta sleep now +_+
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:53 PM   #6
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED] [VISUAL] Mortred's Illusions

Unneeded.

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Old 11-22-2009, 06:15 PM   #7
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED] [VISUAL] Mortred's Illusions

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Unneeded.

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Unneeded?

Ofc this is needed, its making some strategies impossible if the enemies can see which ones are illusions and which one is the real hero at first glance.

TUp for sure.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:44 PM   #8
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED] [VISUAL] Mortred's Illusions

ROFL unneeded.

Big T-UP. However it'd be difficult for the user to know which mortred is the real one.

Any suggest?
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:02 PM   #9
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Big T-UP. However it'd be difficult for the user to know which mortred is the real one. Any suggest?

This is how Mortred and her allies will see it.



This is how the enemies will see it.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:06 PM   #10
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED] [VISUAL] Mortred's Illusions

Rather this then everyone know I am there. Way better this way.
 
Old 11-22-2009, 08:54 PM   #11
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Is this codable?
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:00 PM   #12
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Is this codable?
If it was coded for tiny it should be codable for mort.
However, is it codable that allies see mort like that and enemies see it faded out? I doubt so.
Either one or the other.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:18 PM   #13
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED] [VISUAL] Mortred's Illusions

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Is this codable?
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If it was coded for tiny it should be codable for mort.
However, is it codable that allies see mort like that and enemies see it faded out? I doubt so.
Either one or the other.
Acctually it is codable exactly the way the op said it would be.

If you try to change the color of an illusion then it will only change how the enemy looks at it. It is as far as i know impossible to make it invisible for yourself which luckily is the way we want it.

I made a quick testmap to try it out it only contains two units, one is your enemy and one is your own unit. When the enemy unit uses the wand of illusion the illusion turns invisible but when you use it it looks like nothing happens although for your enemies it will have turned invisible.
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:26 AM   #14
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This is how Mortred and her allies will see it.



This is how the enemies will see it.
this is the way to implement it.. easy for allies, bad for emenies. everybody wins. t-up
 
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED] [VISUAL] Mortred's Illusions

T-down for PA part....T-up for tiny part~
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T-down for PA part....T-up for tiny part~
LOL, the Tiny's part is already fixed >"< did u read everything?

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btw, a pic of how allies see was updated..
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,this should be implemented.
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The allies vision of seeing full mortred is removed IIRC... I think there are reason for it.


For else, T-Up
 
Old 11-23-2009, 10:43 AM   #19
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The allies vision of seeing full mortred is removed IIRC... I think there are reason for it.


For else, T-Up
This. If Tiny has 3 big illusions. So Mortred must have 3 transparent illusions.
 
Old 11-23-2009, 10:51 AM   #20
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T-down for PA part....T-up for tiny part~
Read again the suggestion pls lol
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