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Old 10-23-2012, 05:51 PM   #1
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Default Best 1v1 Solo Mid Hero


Which hero is the best to go down the mid lane against another solo mid hero, And what are the items that should be taken?

In order to "win" this game, you are required to kill the opposing hero 10 times, or take down three towers. This is not a practical way of playing the game, more of a pride match thing, and sorry if this has been asked.
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:58 PM   #2
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Default Re: Best 1v1 Solo Mid Hero

It always has been and for the foreseeable future will be Bane.
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:03 PM   #3
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Default Re: Best 1v1 Solo Mid Hero

Bane indeed, max Enfeeble and go for the win by CS since he has no pushing ability.

At level 6 you should have 2-3 level of enfeeble probably nya, you get Ult and bam- start killing while the enemy can do nothing about it.

Is it normal gold or 4000? That changes things o.o
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:30 PM   #4
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Thinking about that, bane seems a really good choice. Even against nuker heroes, since you can sleep them. 1v1 is boring, tough.
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:36 PM   #5
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Default Re: Best 1v1 Solo Mid Hero

viper pretty good too. outlasthit/harass like np.

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Old 10-23-2012, 07:01 PM   #6
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Default Re: Best 1v1 Solo Mid Hero

Bane, Viper, Brood, QoP.

Bane and Viper are pretty much owned against summons though...
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:05 PM   #7
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I saw some thread about this a while ago. Enchantress and brood were mentioned good 1v1 heroes as well. Brood obviously just steamrolls over bane, as bane can't stop the push nor stop brood from last-hitting provided brood gets SR and has a constant supply of spiderlings.

Other heroes I can think of are Strygwyr and SF (just outlasthit your opponent).

Overall, I don't think that there is a definite answer. Rock, paper scissors etc., even though there might be a fuckton of scissors, only a few papers and some heroes that fall under the mushroom category.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:40 AM   #8
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Which hero is the best to go down the mid lane against another solo mid hero, And what are the items that should be taken?

In order to "win" this game, you are required to kill the opposing hero 10 times, or take down three towers. This is not a practical way of playing the game, more of a pride match thing, and sorry if this has been asked.
Bane, SR then rush Aghs Necro. Dagon always works in 1v1 against all but the beefiest heroes. Nothing the other guy can do against you, EXCEPT mass summons push, aka Brood, who happens to be a great 1v1 as well.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:37 AM   #9
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Am I the only one who thinks that sniper is really good since he can either spam sharpnel or win by superior range.
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:52 AM   #10
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There is no best, but there are a few top ones. Bane is good, but cannot do shit against Brood. Similarly, Viper is ridiculous 1v1, but Enchant handles him just fine.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:08 AM   #11
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Lich win versus any hero, EXP. difference provided by Dark Ritual is too strong to ignore and Nova spam is ridiculous.

The hero needs only Tranquil boots to be able to stay in lane forever and some HP boosting skills so he don't die to any spell combo.

Level difference if players are equally good will be too huge in Lich's favor.
After the first level advantage Lich can out-lane and drive enemy out of exp. range making the exp. difference even more.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:17 AM   #12
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I think very good heroes are mentioned above but Enigma is awesome too. With Eidolons you can take almost all last hits and denies (and IIRC it gives you level advantage as Lich's Dark Ritual).
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:19 AM   #13
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Lich win versus any hero, EXP. difference provided by Dark Ritual is too strong to ignore and Nova spam is ridiculous.
Bane is ok with Nova Spam especially when he gets his soul ring. When he reaches lvl 6 he can insta kill Lich as well.

Bane and Lanaya for me.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:20 AM   #14
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I think very good heroes are mentioned above but Enigma is awesome too. With Eidolons you can take almost all last hits and denies.
Demonic conversion is pretty costly as a lane control spell. You'll still get raped by the likes of Invoker/QoP/Brood/Bane (max brain sap).

Or if the enemy has any form of aoe, he can just focus down your eidolons. Enigma alone isn't remotely good at solo mid.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:07 PM   #15
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:14 PM   #16
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Default Re: Best 1v1 Solo Mid Hero

My TA won against LostEnt's Bane wahahaha (Even though he was annoying as fuck and wasn't playing seriously lol)

OT: Yeah I guess Bane is a bitch to fight when you are doing 1 v 1.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:35 PM   #17
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Learn to play Lich. Also learn what spells counter Enfeeble (there may be none as of this version, but magnus's empower used to override Enfeeble).

Ultimately, there isn't ONE hero to stomp them all. Skill difference makes a big impact once the actual picks turn out balanced.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:44 PM   #18
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Default Re: Best 1v1 Solo Mid Hero

They say Pudge is a good solo mid hero as well. Not sure how does that work though.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:33 PM   #19
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Shadow Demon, Bane, Lich.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:10 AM   #20
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They say Pudge is a good solo mid hero as well. Not sure how does that work though.
If the Pudge is good at his hooks and mindgames, then he can easily dominate mid like no other hero can. However, something like Bane can survive a kill attempt if he is attentive and has Nightmare ready. You just can't play as liberally against Pudge as you do against other heroes.
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:11 PM   #21
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I saw some thread about this a while ago. Enchantress and brood were mentioned good 1v1 heroes as well. Brood obviously just steamrolls over bane, as bane can't stop the push nor stop brood from last-hitting provided brood gets SR and has a constant supply of spiderlings.

Ench is weak vs a hero like SF.Other then the forest mobs she has no other mechanism that can help her outrun burst damage.She can slow auto attacks , yes but that dosen't help vs someone who can just last hit and ignore her auto-attack damage(BS)

Brood has hard time vs AoE(Tredsin,Lina) and you can just ward the crap out of him.


Other heroes I can think of are Strygwyr and SF (just outlasthit your opponent).

BS is weak againts burst damage.Imagine fighting on mid versus a Jugg or a LS.

Overall, I don't think that there is a definite answer. Rock, paper scissors etc., even though there might be a fuckton of scissors, only a few papers and some heroes that fall under the mushroom category.

There IS no answer.Each hero has it's weakness. So the best advice is to not be obvious.
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>Types:Imma kill any mid who be rollin vs me!
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:19 PM   #22
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:44 PM   #23
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Bane is a good pick, and lich can lock-down a lane like no-other. For your specifications though I'd also reccomend leshrac simply because he can push towers like a beast and afteer 3 towers you win in your game-rules.
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:49 PM   #24
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I suppose enfeeble can lock down the bear.

Bane, TA, DP, Tinker.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:45 AM   #25
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In my opinion, it will be:
1st - Bane Elemental (Proven and tested)
2nd - Lich (Unlimited Mana and EXP deny)
3rd - Dragonus (Especially if your enemy has paper HP)
4th - Nevermore (Self explanatory)
5th - Broodmother (Especially if your enemy has no AOE)
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:52 AM   #26
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SF with defensive laning. Unbeatable.

OT, seriously now: Shadow demon is arguably the best solo mid with 603 starting gold.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:15 AM   #27
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OD is really annoying.. and strong in 1v1 lane
unfortunately, enfeeble counters him even though he spam AI to get dmg
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:14 AM   #28
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I suppose enfeeble can lock down the bear.

Bane, TA, DP, Tinker.
We still have Syllarbear with 550 range
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:14 AM   #29
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Bane sucks ass vs Brood! 1st ever 1vs1 I ever played vs against a bane as he picked the hero right off the bat(He was better player than me that time). I missed quite a lot of last hits and got killed like 3 times and managed to kill him 0 times but still won the game. (He left) as he could not stop my push!
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:09 PM   #30
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We still have Syllarbear with 550 range
Whos is laughably weak.
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:03 PM   #31
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Whos is laughably weak.
I mean bane can't reduce both bears' damage you get it??? And if you see spirit bear's damage is too low, max synergy first
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I mean bane can't reduce both bears' damage you get it??? And if you see spirit bear's damage is too low, max synergy first
...of course I get, why wouldn't I?
I'm not saying that Bane beats Sylla outright by any stretch, but Sylla in his piss weak form doesn't do shit without his bear, and 2 Brain Saps eat him alive.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:02 PM   #33
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Why not broodmother? Not only you need to have some AoE, you also need to have some way to harass her stupid regen, and you'll probably still dead when she rightclick you even if you got blink.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:06 AM   #34
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For me it's definetly OD. Even if a bane should enfeeble you, you'll get some damage back and at some point he'll have no mana to support more than one spell.
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