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filler post
Edit: Damn was testing the guide feature. Well anyway can't undo. As you can see I am working on a Lina guide, feel free to give suggestions for what you want to see, post replays or just generally give feedback as I go allong. Was meaning to revive my Medusa guide first but since I'm at it might as well do one on Lina. Enjoy.
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Don't need to find a better pic
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Ok well, I'll start off. Is spell discriptions really THAT needed. I am providing a link to the hero page and find that repeating what is said there in a guide to be a waste of space.
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I'm a huge fan of spell descriptions because they let you discuss nuances of them (eg cast delay, of your nukes' AoE, etc).
Btw, your alt+tab guide isn't formatting correctly for me (?) http://phoenixdota.com/junk/toglinaalttab.png
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Should be fixed now.
I don't know, I just dont like the fact that despite the newbies, that there are other players who read chunks in guides I.E. stats, skill decriptions ect, that they could easily access through say the hero page instead of filling half of a guide with it. It is unneded information and really seem to take the place of otherwise more useful information.
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Lawl, Has her own TV series!
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Lol awesome picture, good luck with the guide.
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Interesting, I never even considered leveling firey soul early, ill try it.
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You still should'nt max it over any of your spells though.
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Hey guys ,found this vid and thought it might be nice to introduce players to her skillset while at the same time showing how awesome Euls and/or Dagger can be on her which is something I am going to advocate anyway.
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That video feels too long for an introduction and such a high aerial view is annoying.
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Meh, only wanted the first part, o well.
Gonna start on the itembuild soon. feel free to voice oppinions people.
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Anyway, try to not make it too long like it is currently. Some dinamic battles with good use of Eul's and Lina skillset seems like a good way to show off her power imo.
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Not gonna use the vid. If it was shorter maybe. Just thought it would be worth a look.
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Pretty much done for today. I'm fine with the skill build and the formatting up until the item build. I'm gonna try some stuff tomorrow to see if I can cut out some of the fluff and generally improve the format.
Still have quite a few sections that I might want to add, but lack of sleep is making me not think straight so I will probably work on the guide later this evening. Feel free to comment and give advice where you can though.
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I have wrote a Lina guide before (well I didn't really get it published I don't think, too busy at the time to completely finish, I wish I would've kept it and posted it for real now that I have the free time). I disagree with an early point of Fiery Soul. A point of Fiery Soul lvl 4 is as useful as a point in Stats; you should be concentrating on your nuke damage, not getting in 1 or 2 extra hits (which would be the equivalent of a point in DS or LSA). All in all; FS does little to nothing as far as a lvl 1 skill goes, it should be skipped until your others are maxed out. I have started to try out new stuff with Lina, and I agree that maxing out DS with 2 LSA points (considering you took out your FS point) is the best way to go.
Besides that, pretty similar builds, though I wouldn't put Desolator. As I have said, experimented more in the ways of Lina, all I can say is that DPS Lina is almost never worth it (if you're in -EM, possibly) and/or you will almost never get up to that point unless you have a lot of disables on your team. A good opposing team will take you out among the first if you go for DPS, you would need BKB first to get an item like Desolator to actually do some DPS damage, which (like I said) is something that you won't ever get to (at least you SHOULDN'T). Also, as I look at your Point Booster I thought to myself; wouldn't it be more worth it to grab a Bracer/Null or two in the early game stages? Sure it's a good filler item for the quick boost, but you won't use it in any item (thankfully you didn't put Aghanim's Sceptre as a core/luxury item like some people), and the fact that you will need the help of a Bracer/Null for early last hitting. Let's compare these towards Point Booster: Bracer vs. Point Booster: You get 28 more HP, 6 more damage, and 0.6 more armor, and 6% more AS, costs 180 less gold. Easy buildup and you might get (on a low average guesstimation) 8 more creep kills than without anything except +3 damage/3% AS with Wand, which would translate to (on average guesstimation) 392 gold, making it much more worth the Point Booster. It could possibly hook you a kill as well. Point Booster vs. Bracer: You get 72 more mana, equivalent to about the mana of a Dagger blink. One less item slot filled. I'd rather go with the Bracers/Nulls usually, but that one less item slot filled is sometimes a winner. Null vs. Point Booster: Same as Bracer except costs 230 less gold, the Point Booster bonus would be opposite (change 72 mana to 72 HP, meaning more mana with Nulls). I'd say it's a matter of need and personal preference. I think you would be good with just 1 Bracer for the game, that's why you have Wand AND Bottle, no? |
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Edited the format, gonna leave it like this for now unless there are complaints. Will finish the Skill descriptions by later this evening and should move on to items after that.
Just in advance. The skill =/= stat chart is going to display your attributes from level 1 - 25 depending on how you followed my build. Thats all for now, will add lots more pictures/sections/replays over the next few days. Feel free to add if there is anything you would like to see.
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I just gotta say thank fucking god someone has finally advised dagger on Lina...she needs it so bad to help land her stun. But...
I die a bit inside everytime I see a lina go aghanims. Please, take that ugly blue staff off. It's definitely not worth it, 4k gold for about 200 more damage on her ult, and it doesn't even reduce CD. Euls is great because it solves her problems of having low base MS and a lack of escape mechanism. Simply cyclone and blink away. |
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