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Old 11-27-2009, 07:33 AM   #1
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As many people know, Spell Shield is currently underestimated for it's current functions along with the Hero himself. So I propose a change for him a bit.

Str Growth : From 20 + 1.2 into 20 + 1.65. Just a slight buff.

Mana Break : Currently Magina's Mana Break deals 0.6 damage/mana burned. I suggest to make it into 15/30/45/60 and deals 1 damage/mana burned.

Blink : No Buff needed. It's fine as it is.

Spell Shield(this is the one which needs most improvement) : Gives 7.5%/15%/22.5%/30% Magic Resistance and gains Bonus IAS when an enemy around 400 AoE casts a spell. The Bonus IAS equals to Manacost/5. Cap of 100 Bonus IAS. Bonus IAS decreases by 10 for each hits. Lasts for 10 seconds.
I'm sure this could be coded like how Nether Ward works.

Mana Void : Deals the 100% damage dealt to main target in 300 AoE, deals half damage for the outside. AoE of 350/400/450. Deals 1.0 damage for each mana missing at all levels. Manacost of 100/175/250.

Numbers for Spell Shield Buff can be adjusted later, but for now, judge from Concept.
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:51 AM   #2
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Concept of a shield not being a just shield and giving IAS, T-Down.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:29 AM   #3
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Concept of a shield not being a just shield and giving IAS, T-Down.
What do you mean?
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:18 AM   #4
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Maybe just change the skill altogether (not just a shield also), it can be better than that...
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:37 PM   #5
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I agree on buffing Magina's ulti and the first skill, but

HUGE T-DOWN

to the third skill. Another buff besides the other two would make him imba.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:42 PM   #6
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Default Re: [Buff]Magina

I was nearly at the IAS cap in one game with magina. He got the highest possible IAS in dota at the moment. So t-down to spellshield, but I agree to your changes to Manabreak.
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:02 AM   #7
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I was nearly at the IAS cap in one game with magina. He got the highest possible IAS in dota at the moment. So t-down to spellshield, but I agree to your changes to Manabreak.
Oh? Which items? Any help from IAS spells? Was it -em?
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Old 06-19-2010, 03:10 PM   #8
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t-dwn. magina is too strong already IMO.
very hard to gank and kinda impossible to kill without a bunch of disables.
if a heroe is good in everything he becomes imba, and boring.

i think he is fine as he is.
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Old 06-19-2010, 03:12 PM   #9
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I don't wanna see Magina totally rapes Raijin with this huge buff.
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Old 06-19-2010, 04:14 PM   #10
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your magina remake reminds me of buffed new razor, just go vanguard treds hoods and you are a serial killer, magina doesnt need so many changes, but I like the concept of the ultimate with growing AoE.
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Old 06-19-2010, 06:18 PM   #11
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All these changes together would make him ridiculously overpowered.

1st skill needs no changing, esp. such a massive buff as you proposed. It'll basically be Nevermore's necromastery at all times with mana burn.

Spell shield...I agree. Just this would be fine.

His Ult is fine as it is.
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Old 06-19-2010, 06:26 PM   #12
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I'm sure this could be coded like how Nether Ward works.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:33 PM   #13
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I agree on buffing Magina's ulti and the first skill, but

HUGE T-DOWN

to the third skill. Another buff besides the other two would make him imba.
Wat?
You mean it would make him comparable to lion, CM ES and the top picks?Why not?
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Old 06-20-2010, 03:56 AM   #14
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Wat?
You mean it would make him comparable to lion, CM ES and the top picks?Why not?
He would be comparable to those early game and destroy them late game.
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Old 06-20-2010, 03:59 AM   #15
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Default Re: [Buff]Magina

no for the concept,damn magina paired with a disabler/babysitter support is already a monster early game,(ManaBreak is imba early game) and will transition well to late-game with God-tier items.
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no for the concept,damn magina paired with a disabler/babysitter support is already a monster early game,(ManaBreak is imba early game) and will transition well to late-game with God-tier items.
if ti so simple, why noone of top team will not even think bout pick this hero?
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:57 AM   #17
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Old 06-20-2010, 07:01 AM   #18
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well, I think Magina is good now, just make his blink can silence in a small area at the arrival place . It should be cool !!!
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Old 06-20-2010, 08:31 AM   #19
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well, I think Magina is good now, just make his blink can silence in a small area at the arrival place . It should be cool !!!
First time to post could have been more helpful. Review mine?
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