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Old 11-19-2012, 04:11 AM   #1
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Default Double E.blade


after seeing these ppl use e.blade stack on roshan in diretide i wonder if zet if ported to d2 can use double e.blade against enemy causing amplify damage by 1x(1.4^1.4)?
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:42 AM   #2
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yes it does amplyfy.
first cast doesnt,
second does.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:45 AM   #3
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How the fuck would you farm two e-blades.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:53 AM   #4
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How the fuck would you farm two e-blades.
He's talking about getting one on Zet and using the ult to duplicate it.

Also, eblade damage is applied after the debuff, so the first one will also do the bonus damage.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:02 AM   #5
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Does the eblade buff from a single eblade stack with itself? This is for Tinker.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:05 AM   #6
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double EB doesnt stack, but EB and decrepify do stack, though it is considered as a bug
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:18 AM   #7
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double EB doesnt stack, but EB and decrepify do stack, though it is considered as a bug
But you could stack eblade buffs on Roshan; was this fixed or simply Roshan-exclusive?
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:20 AM   #8
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But you could stack eblade buffs on Roshan; was this fixed or simply Roshan-exclusive?
^u cant. multiple EB NEVER stack. the fast kill roshan strat does not rely on stacking EB.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:51 AM   #9
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But you could stack eblade buffs on Roshan; was this fixed or simply Roshan-exclusive?
Don't know if it was fixed yet, but it wasn't Rosh-exclusive. Stacking -ve magic resistance like that was a known bug in the main game, you just never saw it because Veil and Pugna are rare choices, two Eblades on the same team were never seen, and people didn't really have enough hp for the effect to be noticed properly.

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multiple EB NEVER stack
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:01 AM   #10
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^u cant. multiple EB NEVER stack. the fast kill roshan strat does not rely on stacking EB.
It doesnt relly on that, however, eb does stack.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:13 AM   #11
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It doesnt relly on that, however, eb does stack.
test it before posting
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:22 AM   #12
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test it before posting
I don't have to.

Magic damage amplification, which includes Eblades, stacks. Stop arguing, you're making yourself look like an idiot.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:25 AM   #13
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I don't have to.

Magic damage amplification, which includes Eblades, stacks. Stop arguing, you're making yourself look like an idiot.
lol
that post never said multiple EB stack. i have tested in the latest version. multiple EB from the same team do not stack. might stack from different team, but i doubt it. i dont like insulting ppl, but who is an idiot here?
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:25 AM   #14
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lol
that post never said multiple EB stack. i have tested in the latest version. multiple EB from the same team do not stack. might stack from different team, but i doubt it. i dont like insulting ppl, but who is an idiot here?
It was confirmed by a fucking moderator, what else do you want to give up?
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:42 AM   #15
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Ethereal Blade causes a unit to be etherealized, which then is hardcoded by Blizzard that units in that state takes X% damage from spells. It's not a spell damage amplifier, it's a state where you take multipled damage.

That's what I know.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:48 AM   #16
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It was confirmed by a fucking moderator, what else do you want to give up?
learn reading cant u? mod confirmed that the damage calculation is wrong but not EB stacks with another EB. i am one of the active testers on dev forum, so i think i know a little bit more than u do.

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Ethereal Blade causes a unit to be etherealized, which then is hardcoded by Blizzard that units in that state takes X% damage from spells. It's not a spell damage amplifier, it's a state where you take multipled damage.

That's what I know.
pretty much this. finally someone can understand the mechanics
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:48 PM   #17
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but who is an idiot here?
Still you. It was a confirmed fact from the game developers.

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Ethereal Blade causes a unit to be etherealized, which then is hardcoded by Blizzard that units in that state takes X% damage from spells. It's not a spell damage amplifier, it's a state where you take multipled damage.
That's true, for the original game. Dota2 mechanics got it wrong though, and allowed magic amplification to stack.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:56 PM   #18
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Still you. It was a confirmed fact from the game developers.
I'd like to see the said confirmation, pls.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:07 PM   #19
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Still you. It was a confirmed fact from the game developers.
god... thread u provide did not confirm this. how many times do i need to say that? u r insulting urself now. u didnt do the test while i told u i did some test before arguing with u. and u keep calling me idiot i tried my very best to respect u, but i think i am reaching the limit.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:21 PM   #20
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what noob builds eblade on zet dumbest thing ive ever heard
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:20 AM   #21
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does eblade stacks multiple? would try it on d2 not d1
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:37 AM   #22
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Why the fuck would you buy 2 eb
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:38 AM   #23
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Why the fuck would you buy 2 eb
hes talking about on zet which imho is fucking dumb
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:55 AM   #24
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Well idk what Dota2 is doing about it, but multiple instances of Ethereal form shouldn't stack. You can't make someone more ethereal. It's a one-off thing. There are certain properties and graphics tied to someone being in that form, it's like invisibility in that sense (though in dota1 multiple instances of perm. invis do in a sense give you more invis... but....).
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I always do this with zet. but i wait till the first one ends or aim it at different heroes...
Never tougth it would stack.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:02 AM   #26
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I always do this with zet. but i wait till the first one ends or aim it at different heroes...
Never tougth it would stack.
dont ever build eb on zet there are far better items for zet who btw has a terrible 1.8 agi gain.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:07 AM   #27
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dont ever build eb on zet there are far better items for zet who btw has a terrible 1.8 agi gain.
Pubstomp, i stoped caring when i went 12 0 7 by min 15...
So just went phase boots, dagon1,force staff eb.
The damage came from clifftrap placed wraiths, so i bait force them close to them eb and dagon while the sparks went boom.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:12 AM   #28
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Pubstomp, i stoped caring when i went 12 0 7 by min 15...
So just went phase boots, dagon1,force staff eb.
The damage came from clifftrap placed wraiths, so i bait force them close to them eb and dagon while the sparks went boom.
imho it far more fun building a necro manta rfer Hotm and have an army of 30+ units
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imho it far more fun building a necro manta rfer Hotm and have an army of 30+ units
but refresher doesnt work on the clone, does it?
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but refresher doesnt work on the clone, does it?
no but it does on the original so you have 3 zet's + 6 manta illusions + 6 necro warriors + 3 trolls + 6 skeleton warriors
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