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Old 11-26-2012, 07:08 PM   #1
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I just wana know who is the hardest champion to play in dota and dota 2 I'm thinking invoker cuz I suck getting the right spells on him xD

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Old 11-26-2012, 07:15 PM   #2
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Hahaha Oh boy.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:20 PM   #3
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It`s probably Janna or Ahri.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:50 PM   #4
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thats not the right way to troll boy. gotta be more subtle.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:59 PM   #5
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ITT: Idiots who never played WC3.

Fyi, in WC3, heroes ARE champions.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:02 PM   #6
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Fyi, in WC3, heroes ARE champions.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:09 PM   #7
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yeh. dude. that's like. totally your opinion man.

but I think ziggs is really the hardest to play
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:19 PM   #8
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:30 PM   #9
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Yes. WC3 soundfiles.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:36 PM   #10
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Yes. WC3 soundfiles.
replay or didn't happen.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:39 PM   #11
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Fyi, in WC3, heroes ARE champions.
An evil canniving Dreadlord is not a champion.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:52 PM   #12
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An evil canniving Dreadlord is not a champion.
it's also not a thing. canniving.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:02 PM   #13
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AI TINK ITZ ZET NAIT WIT SVORD END SHIIIILD!!!XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDX
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:02 PM   #14
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:35 PM   #16
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:46 PM   #17
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ITT: Idiots who never played WC3.

Fyi, in WC3, heroes ARE champions.
you're trying to hard. Was ein schwanz.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:54 PM   #18
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:00 AM   #19
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you're trying to hard. Was ein schwanz.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:11 AM   #20
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DotA: Techies.

Many people don't know him and always stack bombs in the same place. Once the opposing team gets gem, the techies player usually doesn't know what to do.

DotA 2: Chen/Visage.

There's a reason why they are the least played heroes. People don't know how to micro. If players would randomly choose these heroes more often for whatever reason, I'm 100% sure the winrate in pubs would drop tremendously.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:16 AM   #21
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I say Techie.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:29 AM   #22
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:35 AM   #23
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Annie. Don't land that Tibbers and you and your other champion allies die.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:41 AM   #24
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I do not support idiocy.
Ok. Go send people on some obscure sound file chase just to prove that you could on one day of the week be technically correct.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:48 AM   #25
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Ok. Go send people on some obscure sound file chase just to prove that you could on one day of the week be technically correct.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:49 AM   #26
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HERETIC !!!
well just use huskar against heavy nuker and you get the hardest game in your life
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:57 AM   #27
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Ok. Go send people on some obscure sound file chase just to prove that you could on one day of the week be technically correct.
He's right, though.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:04 AM   #28
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That's not the point at all. Technically he has a case for champions. However, the fact that he is *correct* about term champion in reference to DotA history is hardly grounds for calling people idiots "because they haven't played Wc3". I have played Wc3 and I know the sound bite, however http://www.playdota.com/heroes.

Obviously there is a stigma about the use of the word champion because it is so prevalent in the LoL lexicon. I doubt that calling people idiots over obscure technicalities is going to help. Of course if the guy just wants to get his post count up and argue with people then... cool.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:40 AM   #29
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Ok. Go send people on some obscure sound file chase just to prove that you could on one day of the week be technically correct.
Technically, I am allmost allways correct.
I once were often in Advanced Mechanics.



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However, the fact that he is *correct* about term champion in reference to DotA history is hardly grounds for calling people idiots "because they haven't played Wc3".
They are making themselves look like a fool (or "idiot" how I would call it) by saying "GO BACK TO LOL AND TAKE YOUR CHAMPIONS WITH YOU!".
If someone never noticed that the announcer calls out "champion", then I seriously don't know what to say. Proof is there and ppl still go roflmad about "champion".


Doesn't matter. I am still correct, and ppl still make themself look like fools.
However, I agree that can be misleading for some.


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Obviously there is a stigma about the use of the word champion because it is so prevalent in the LoL lexicon. I doubt that calling people idiots over obscure technicalities is going to help.
I hate it if someone is WRONG (applies to myself too). That's my nature. Can't do shit against it.
And I hate it even more if ppl have BASELESS hate against certain words.

E: Also, in Advanced Mechanics, it was allways about being correct. Not about giving useful information or being overly friendly. Might have had some influence on my attitude.


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Of course if the guy just wants to get his post count up and argue with people then... cool.
My post count is high enough, one of the highest too, AFAIK. But thanks anyway.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:00 AM   #30
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Those type of units are called a "hero". The Night Elf race is different in that they refer to their hero units as champions, but the name of that specific unit type is hero. Here's the sounds for each dialogue warning referencing a hero event (allied hero death/player hero death):

GenericWarningHeroFallen1.mp3: "A hero has fallen."
KnightAllyHeroDies1: "An allied hero has fallen."
KnightHeroDies1: "Our hero has fallen."
NagaAllyHeroDies1: "Our ally's hero has fallen."
NagaHeroDies1: "Our hero has fallen in battle."
SentinelAllyHeroDies1: "An allied champion has fallen."
SentinelHeroDies1: "Our champion has fallen."
GruntAllyHeroDies1: "Our ally's hero has been slain."
GruntHeroDies1: "Our hero has been slain."
NecromancerAllyHeroDies1: "An allied hero has been killed."
NecromancerHeroDies1: "Our hero has been killed."

The Night Elves are a strange race, calling their heroes as "champions". Perhaps to the Night Elves certain characters such as Maiev, Tyrande, Adora Nightshade, Centrius, Mirana Starlight are champions in their eyes, but to every other race they're merely heroes. Fyi, in WC3, heroes are NOT always champions. Don't follow the sillyness of the Night Elves in viewing all above-average units as champions, they're just heroes to us.

No unit-type called "champion" exists in Warcraft III. Therefore because everyone in this forum cares, "champion" is not quite the correct label for such units. Simply by this post existing, this level of reasoning is possible for Rika Furude v3. What do you think, everyone?! Ahahahahaahah!





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Old 11-27-2012, 02:29 AM   #32
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My post count is high enough, one of the highest too, AFAIK. But thanks anyway.
If in every of those you call people idiots that doesn't make you any good.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:45 AM   #33
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The hardest champion to play is pugna.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:59 AM   #35
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Playing against IG is hard for sure
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:37 AM   #36
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Those type of units are called a "hero". The Night Elf race is different in that they refer to their hero units as champions, but the name of that specific unit type is hero. Here's the sounds for each dialogue warning referencing a hero event (allied hero death/player hero death):

GenericWarningHeroFallen1.mp3: "A hero has fallen."
KnightAllyHeroDies1: "An allied hero has fallen."
KnightHeroDies1: "Our hero has fallen."
NagaAllyHeroDies1: "Our ally's hero has fallen."
NagaHeroDies1: "Our hero has fallen in battle."
SentinelAllyHeroDies1: "An allied champion has fallen."
SentinelHeroDies1: "Our champion has fallen."
GruntAllyHeroDies1: "Our ally's hero has been slain."
GruntHeroDies1: "Our hero has been slain."
NecromancerAllyHeroDies1: "An allied hero has been killed."
NecromancerHeroDies1: "Our hero has been killed."

The Night Elves are a strange race, calling their heroes as "champions". Perhaps to the Night Elves certain characters such as Maiev, Tyrande, Adora Nightshade, Centrius, Mirana Starlight are champions in their eyes, but to every other race they're merely heroes. Fyi, in WC3, heroes are NOT always champions. Don't follow the sillyness of the Night Elves in viewing all above-average units as champions, they're just heroes to us.

No unit-type called "champion" exists in Warcraft III. Therefore because everyone in this forum cares, "champion" is not quite the correct label for such units.
+1 internetz for that. It should end the dispute.

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stopped reading at champion.
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skeleton knight and of course, ursa and rikimaru!
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For me, the hardest champion to play is Pyromancer that has 6 divine rapier.

Btw, I thought this was Dota2 forum?
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