[Item]Ghost cloak

[Pekis]

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1500 + 1400 + 600 = 3500

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Ghost Cloak



Stats
+10 all attributes
+15 armor

Active

Ghost Form(Greater)
* Lasts 7 seconds and has a 25 second cooldown.
* Can be turned off.
* Makes you unable to attack or be attacked, but take 44% extra damage from spells.
* Ends if you become magic immune, and will have no effect if you are already magic immune
* Shared cooldown with Ghost Scepter.

(Not my image btw.)

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Why this item?

The first item that gives armor bonus that comes to my mind is:
Blademail

2200 Gold
+22 damage
+5 armor
+10 Intelligence
Damage Return (active)

This item is more usable as a counter against nukes and late game melee heroes, than as an defensive item for heroes with low armor rating since its armor bonus is just 5 (well... it's cheap at least). So for armor, it's better to buy:
Nathrezim Buckler

803 Gold
+5 armor
+2 all attributes
Armor Bonus (active) (+2 armor)

Nathrezim Buckler is cheaper, provides 5(7) armor and can be upgraded. Pretty good for armor bonus in the beginning, but the armor bonus is nothing after the game has lasted for a while. Therefore you probably will upgrade it to get Mekanism and its healing effect. In other words, not an item with armor bonus as main property, but better than blademail if you want to take less damage from attacks.
Next item is:
Vanguard

2225 Gold
+275 HP
+6 HP/sec regeneration
Damage Block (passive) (28/14 damage blocked per attack in average)

Yes, this item is good: Decent health bonus, hit-point regeneration and lower damage taken. But only for a while. Same thing as with Blademail, blocks attack in start but becomes less useful later on. It even has the same price. Although this item provides a health bonus to defend against direct nukes and attacks, it isn't very good later on for taking damage and even risk getting sold for something more useful!

The items that we have left to concern for armor bonus, and which could be decent replacements to earlier mentions are Shiva's Guard - 4700 Gold and Assault Cuirass - 5550 Gold. If you have the gold to buy either one of them, you will. Both items provide you with a high armor bonus and are very useful in their own ways once you get your hand on them, after, not before. Here are the problems involving Shiva's Guard and Assault Cuirass:

1. Both requires you to venture both the secret shop and the fountain to complete the recipe.
2. Assault Cuirass needs you to use very much inventory space before getting it or you need to save a lot of cash before getting it.
3. With shivas you need to wait a long while for getting any kind of bonuses on the way to the upgrade (3300 gold can be a really long wait).

After considering all of this I ended up buying Ghost Scepter instead, since it proved much more beneficial bonuses towards lowering incoming damage and the long-term survival than all the others while also considering the price if 1600 Gold.
Then I got the Thought: "what if you could actually get armor in some way without having to buy something that doesn't really give you what you want?" That's the moment I came up with the idea with Ghost Cloak (find me a better image if you can). Currently, there is no item that only focuses on the defense against attacks for your hero, maybe it's meant to be that way, but considering we have the items: "Khadgar's Pipe of Insight", "Boots of Travel" and "Buriza-do Kyanon" there is no way that can be true.
The reason greater ghost form can be turned off is simple:

• It's an upgrade and should be better than the previous items.
• You pay for an item that should block against melee attacks but not render you to vulnerable to other sources of damage.

Thank you for your time.

You will want this item when...

... you are focuses in teamfights.
... you get ganked.
... your gank went wrong.
... you are trying to escape.
... you need an attribute bonus.
... you need armor.
... Ursa warrior attacks you from behind.
... etc.

You wish you didn't have this item when...

... you get disabled after activating it.
... you have activated it and gets surprised by a nuke.
... the enemies change tactics after you got it.
... etc.

quick Q&A

Q: Why do you get Ghost Scepter?
A: Because you want to take less damage from attacks. Think about this for a while.

Q: Isn't "that number" to low/high??
A: I provide the idea, the game developer decides the numbers.

Q: armor bonus on an item that gives ghost form?!?
A: Ghost form makes you immune to attacks and vulnerable to spells, I know that.
However you can only be in ghost for once in a while, therefore and armor bonus is considered helpful vs chasers and when the effect wears off. Also the tank of the team, ex. Axe, doesn't get an armor bonus until late game and therefore physical attacks are doing quite a lot of damage to him, e.g. harass. With this you can rush high armor bonus and get it fast. Also a great counter versus various of armor subtraction spells and items.

Q: Ghost Scepter vs Berserker’s Call: What happens if I’m Axe and I ‘call’ when in Ghost Form? What happens if I’m in Ghost Form and ‘called’ by Axe?
A: Simply said, ghost form and berserker’s call do not stack.
When you’re Axe and call in Ghost Form, units won’t attack you so you won’t trigger helix.
When you’re ‘called’ by axe when in ghost form, you would try to but won’t be able to attack Axe. This also means you won’t trigger helix.
The Ultimate life Saver – Ghost Scepter DotA Secrets

Old stats

+7 all attributes
+10 armor
Ghost Form (lesser)
*Makes you unable to attack or be attacked, but take 44% extra damage from spells
*Ends if you become magic immune, and will have no effect if you are already magic immune
*Lasts 4 seconds and has a 25 second cooldown

[CynyC]

T-Down on the following;
- GS, in my experience is largely unused as it gives you a massive defence issue and it's uses are limited. Making an upgrade will not make it any better.
- You are in Ghost form longer, this makes your much more susceptible to spells.
- The Item is quite literally just a buffed version of the two items you bought together, nothing new on the table.

GuildWars :3 though.

[Dark Mizuki]

Item build is fail. You can't be attacked while in Ghost Form, yet you threw in +armor in the recipe.

[CynyC]

Originally Posted by Dark Mizuki

Item build is fail. You can't be attacked while in Ghost Form, yet you threw in +armor in the recipe.

Haha quite true, quite true.

[Shizzy-]

Pretty bad suggestion this would be so over powered if you can just toggle it on and off AND IT LAST 10 SECONDS WITH A 25 SECOND COOLDOWN?
Ridiculous.

[DieZZzz]

10 sec ghost form is too OP

[Sgt Failure]

Compare:

10 Seconds physical immunity, 44% extra spell damage taken, unable to attack


10 Seconds magic immunity, no extra physical spell damage taken, can attack

Solution: Increase CD

[CynyC]

Ok so it's either completely OP or completely useless on the basis that if your fighting melee you get an insane advantage, when fighting casters you will fail.

[Pekis]

NUMBERS CAN ALWAYS BE CHANGED

Thank you for all the replies so far. Currently ghost scepter has 4 sec ghost form, 25 sec cd.
The suggeted upgrade has at the moment 25 sec cd(shared) and lasts 7 sec.

Q: +armor bonus on an item that gives ghost form?!? epic fail.
A: Ghost form makes you immune to attacks and vulnerable to spells, i know that.
However you can only be in ghost for once in a while, therefore and armor bonus is considered helpfull vs chasers and when the effect wears off. Also the tank of the team, ex. Axe, doesnt get an armor bonus until lategame and therefore physical attacks are doing quite a lot of damage to him, eg. harrass. With this you can rush high armor bonus and get it fast. Also a great counter versous various of -armor spells.

[Sgt Failure]

Quick questions, with the axe example. What happens if he Calls when etheral? Also, i still support this, or you can make you unable to cast spells in BKB to balance things out.

[Pekis]

Originally Posted by Sgt Failure

Quick questions, with the axe example. What happens if he Calls when etheral? Also, i still support this, or you can make you unable to cast spells in BKB to balance things out.

About the bkb, i think that magic immunity is far more powerful than physical immunity. A physical attack might do some damage, but a spell can deal 10 times that. Also, most normal attack doesn't stun/slow (although some does) and i think that is the main reason for the spell immunity to be so rare and short.

Q. Ghost Scepter vs Berserker’s Call: What happens if I’m Axe and I ‘call’ when in Ghost Form? What happens if I’m in Ghost Form and ‘called’ by Axe?
A. Simply said, ghost form and berserker’s call do not stack.
When you’re Axe and call in Ghost Form, units won’t attack you so you won’t trigger helix.
When you’re ‘called’ by axe when in ghost form, you would try to but won’t be able to attack Axe. This also means you won’t trigger helix.
Source: The Ultimate life Saver – Ghost Scepter DotA Secrets

[infer]

new idea, add a planeswalker's cloak so u get +25% magic resistance when u got the item and increase recipe cost to 1200 what do u think? it would cost like 4850 total and it would give 25% magic resis 15 armor the 10 all stats and the ghost form (greater) effect

[Dark Mizuki]

Ghost form makes you immune to attacks and vulnerable to spells, i know that.
However you can only be in ghost for once in a while, therefore and armor bonus is considered helpfull vs chasers and when the effect wears off. Also the tank of the team, ex. Axe, doesnt get an armor bonus until lategame and therefore physical attacks are doing quite a lot of damage to him, eg. harrass. With this you can rush high armor bonus and get it fast. Also a great counter versous various of -armor spells.

Unsynergistic nonetheless.

Take Shiva's Guard, for example. You might be wondering how the hell +armor is added in there. take note that the aura reduces ATK speed significantly, and by putting armor it is sure that your EHP/survivability will hit higher than usual. I still don't like having armor together with Ghost Scepter

[Dark Kenshi]

Item is terrible

having bonus armor is worthless if you are in ghost farm

[Pekis]

Originally Posted by Dark Mizuki

Unsynergistic nonetheless.

Take Shiva's Guard, for example. You might be wondering how the hell +armor is added in there. take note that the aura reduces ATK speed significantly, and by putting armor it is sure that your EHP/survivability will hit higher than usual. I still don't like having armor together with Ghost Scepter

Shivas guard has nothing to do with ghost form.
You get scepter becouse you dont like troll warlord and mortred

[Nivo]

T-Down...Highly unsynergetic item in my opinion. Ghost Scepter is already good enough late game no need of anyother high tier item.

[Pekis]

Originally Posted by Nik_V

T-Down...Highly unsynergetic item in my opinion. Ghost Scepter is already good enough late game no need of anyother high tier item.

1. High tier = 5000 gold or higher
2. Ghost scepter takes up 3 times the amount of space of what it should do compared to what it gives.
3. Read the topic before you post a comment

[Pekis]

I just finished a large update -> topic bump!

[GEBnaman]

Oh, so it's just an extended Ghost Form...
Booooorrrinnnnnngningigniangboruinbinginigg.

It's like me combining Ring of Health + Ring of Regen = Health of Regeneration
Gives 7 Hp regen.

[darkmimic]

this item can be useful to enigma,rylai,wd, but mostly enigma for obvious reasons...you just have to bother on landing bhole on disablers, killers can't touch you and when ghost form is gone the +armor gives you a higher possibility of surviving after you land bhole(specially when you lose a clash),therefore giving your allies more time to help you after dealing with the other enemies, make 7seconds to 6 seconds just to balance it..and remove the "can be turned off". t-up