[Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw

CedeoCedeo · 07-27-2009, 01:21 PM

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CHANGE LOG

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INTRODUCTION

Summon Kaarogan

Assumed to be one of the failures of the Khan-Dya'kar tribe, Kaarogan was banished from the lands of Azeroth, ensuing his failure to slay the monster he opposed. Subjugated of his melee combat, he pursued the mastery of the shortbow, which was thought to be one of the most disgraceful rank of weaponry amongst the Centaurs. With the adaptation amongst the forests in which he dwelled upon, he soon learned to control the forsaken loam to trap his enemies, slowly, incapacitating them to their demeaning death, whether by his stout form or his swift arrow. But with every piece of courage upon his heart, and his prized-possession, his sole weapon, Kaarogan tends to oppose once again those who have doubted him in the glorious battlefield.

Credits for the Story go to king_james

Strenght - 21 + 2.4 (Main Attribute)
Agility - 17 + 1.7
Intelligence - 17 + 1.6

Learns Signal Arrow, Quicksand, Shortbow Mastery and Assault

Attack range of 600
Movement speed of 300

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HERO INFORMATION

Affiliation: Neutral
Role: Ganker, Chaser
Theme: Centaurs, Shortbow

Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw

Starting Hitpoints: 549
Starting Mana: 221
Starting Damage: 49-56
Starting Armor: 3

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HERO ABILITIES

Signal Arrow

Kaarogan fires a lit up arrow, once it hits the target point, Kaarogan charges to that point. Can charge through trees, destroying them, but not through unpassable terrain, neither through units. The arrow moves with 1000 Speed, the arrow will not be stopped by anything, it will deal damage by passing through units , Kaarogan will charge with 522 Speed, the Charge stops when the path is blocked by unpassable terrain or an enemy unit. This unit will then recieve damage, be stunned for 1 second while getting knocked back by 130 units.

Level 1 - 65 Arrow Damage. 75 Charge Damage.
Level 2 - 90 Arrow Damage. 95 Charge Damage.
Level 3 - 115 Arrow Damage. 125 Charge Damage.
Level 4 - 135 Arrow Damage. 155 Charge Damage.

In Depth Explanation

Arrow damage is Magical, Charge damage is physical. Also, once the arrow has stopped travelling, the targeted point for the charge will be marked with a flaming arrow, which will only be visible to Kaarogan and his allies.

Duration is until Charge is stopped.
Casting Range is 700/825/950/1075
Casting Time is animation only

Cooldown: 16 seconds at all Levels
Mana Cost: 85/95/105/115
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Quicksand

In years of suriviving in the wilderness, Kaarogan learned to control the earth in order to suck his foes in more and more as they desperately try to fight themselves out.
Creates a 300/380/460/540 Aoe Area of quicksand, that slows enemies when they are moving. Effect fades after 1/1.75/2.5/3.25 seconds of standing still inside the quicksand. If the slow gets removed from a hero by standing for x seconds, the hero will get the buff 'Awareness', that renders him immune to 'Quicksand' for 5 seconds.
Cap of 60% Slow. Slow lasts 3/4/4/5 seconds after leaving the quicksand area

Level 1 - Quicksand initially slows enemies by 10% of their MS and for an additional 3% of their MS for every .75 seconds moving in Quicksand.
Level 2 - Quicksand initially slows enemies by 14% of their MS and for an additional 5% of their MS for every .75 seconds moving in Quicksand.
Level 3 - Quicksand initially slows enemies by 18% of their MS and for an additional 7% of their MS for every .75 seconds moving in Quicksand.
Level 4 - Quicksand initially slows enemies by 22% of their MS and for an additional 9% of their MS for every .75 seconds moving in Quicksand.

In Depth Explanation
The quicksand will slow the affected units as they are moving.
If the affected units will not move the effect will fade after x seconds of standing.

Duration of quicksand area is 3.75/4.5/5.25/6 seconds
Casting Range is 575/650/725/800
Casting Time is 0.75 seconds

Cooldown: 27/24/21/18
Mana Cost: 110/120/130/140

Framework: I'm not sure about the framework, but I imagine some kind of Sand moving towards the centre, the affected units should be ckind of covered in sand too.

Huge thanks to dixing for his help!

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Shortbow Mastery

Kaarogan, though a master of the shortbow, can only bring his skill to perfection when he is able to take aim.
Kaarogans normal attacks now deal extra damage to standing targets or half the damage to targets who are slowed by at least 32%/29%/26%/23% of their MS.

Level 1 - +20(10)% Damage.
Level 2 - +30(15)% Damage.
Level 3 - +45(22.5)% Damage.
Level 4 - +60(30)% Damage.

In Depth Explanation

+dmg will apply once the attack has reached the target.

Duration is none
Casting Range is none
Casting Time is none

Cooldown: none
Mana Cost: none
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Assault

Kaarogan fully focuses his powers on his shortbow, which makes him able to fire arrows so fast that he can even move while doing it.
Kaarogan will begin to fire x arrow a second on random enemies in 650/700/750 AoE around him, he wont need to do an attack animation while doing that, he can even move while shooting. Works with 'Shortbow Mastery'.
For the duration, his attackrange wil be raised by 50/100/150. However, while fully focusing on his enemies, he won't be able to move at his maximum speed. His Ms will be reduced by 18%. Removes all your bonus damage while in 'Assault'.

Level 1 - 2 arrows per second.
Level 2 - 3 arrows per second
Level 3 - 4 arrows per second.

Note : -10% Selfslow with scepter

In Depth Explanation

Duration is 5.5/6.5/7.5 seconds
Casting Range is none
Casting Time is none

Cooldown: 150/130/110 - 20 sec CD with scepter
Mana Cost: 165/185/205

Well, I guess that's it.
Icey prolly won't even notice him but whatever

savorxit · 07-27-2009, 01:25 PM

perma stun ult? nty.

Baldoro · 07-27-2009, 01:28 PM

Would be nice to have a shooting Centaur, however the skills aren't good :x
Needs much work, null vote.

CedeoCedeo · 07-27-2009, 01:31 PM

Specify please

CedeoCedeo · 07-27-2009, 01:43 PM

sry dp

Zirath · 07-27-2009, 01:53 PM

Double post? o.O

1. Projectiles moving at 500 is very slow. Most missiles move around 1000-1500. I'm not really sure how this skill works. I guess you fire and arrow and then charge until you hit something?

2. Ridiculous. Not only is it cosmetically irritating (a centaur summoning a Golem, really? You don't see a problem with this?), it is also overpowered in its effect.

3. This is okay. A little boring, but okay.

4. Stun arrow is inherently overpowered. Its a 5 second CD stun. If you get close, then you will own them very hard.

You need to seriously rethink this. Its cosmetically awkward and the skills are too strong. I'll give more suggestions if you want, but it looks like you might already be satisfied with your hero as it is.

CedeoCedeo · 07-27-2009, 05:14 PM

So, I totally reworked the ulti.
HF

Zirath · 07-27-2009, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CedeoCedeo

So, I totally reworked the ulti.
HF

Thank you for reworking him. This is a lot better.

1. Much better, you will actually be able to hit someone with the arrow now. This move is no longer high risk low reward. You can almost guarantee a decent hit with the arrow and if you are smart, you can use the charge to initiate your ulti.

2. This skill still bothers me. Most likely because it reminds me of many other skills but I'll let someone else pass full judgement. Its a decent ganking/farming tool and its a good set up for Signal Arrow.

3. No changes, no comment.

4. This is pretty cool. I think I've seen it suggested before but its still a cool ability. It works pretty well on this hero because his skill do focus on isolating groups of enemies. As far as numbers go, those are probably too high for the effect because it is just increasing his attack speed and removing his attack animation for the duration. The spell has a similar feel to Focus Fire.

Overall a pretty big improvement but it probably needs some work here and there a little bit.

CedeoCedeo · 07-27-2009, 05:39 PM

I thought the 2nd skill is kind of making a synergy with his other spells

but ok, I changed it a bit

Zirath · 07-27-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CedeoCedeo

I thought the 2nd skill is kind of making a synergy with his other spells

but ok, I changed it a bit

You don't have to change it; that's my opinion. The knockback makes it harder to keep them in there and harder to place Signal Arrow.

See what someone else says before you make other changes.

CedeoCedeo · 07-27-2009, 06:42 PM

Another change

Talor Karos · 07-27-2009, 08:28 PM

Good set of skills... I see good potential in synergies... I kinda LOL on the third skill because his attack speed/AGI is kinda low... it also reminds me of Geminate attack but this skill is better because it also triggers on casting his skills... not on item, I hope... MKB would really be a great item for this hero especially when the ulti is on... :P

CedeoCedeo · 07-28-2009, 05:24 AM

no comments anymore

?

CedeoCedeo · 07-28-2009, 08:07 AM

Bump

king_james · 07-28-2009, 02:44 PM

I wanna say before i review; I really like this hero. I see some definite good synergys. Now lets get on to a badass review... king_james style; crab-dribbling MVP-ing, dunkin' shit over KOBE style!!!!

Alright, let's get on with it:

Signal Arrow: (10/10)
- Unique. I love it. Not only are the mechanics cool, its an awesome way to chase, he can really slow down an enemy with this skill by making himself faster. At first when i saw this skill, i thought it was going to be an autocast; LMAO. I would laugh if it were; thank God it isn't. I like the charge-effect-damage and the knockback thing, really makes him look like he's melee at that moment.

Explosive Arrow: (9/10)
- I see potential in this since when your chasing, you need something to slow the enemy down. This does that, and this opens up some great synergy, leading me to lean toward liking this skill. Solid skill, good synergy, no problems.

Crossbow Mastery: (7.2/10)
- Crossbow Mastery is much like a lot of ideas I've seen through DA, DP and now here at PD. Its like every other archer hero i see, i seem to come across a double attacking dude, the exact counterpart of a weaver. Although the mechanics seem balance so its pretty good.

Assault: (8.7/10)
- Another skill that I have seen throughout archer heroes. I agree with Zirath about how this has been suggested numerous times, but this hero completely fits in with Assault. If I'm right, every arrow Assault deploys thereafter alots a 14/20/26/32% chance for another arrow right? If so, then it would be a little imbalanced, hehe. I see a lot of Windrunner in this skill, but hey, its still cool.

savorxit · 07-28-2009, 02:48 PM

watch the double posts

just a heads up. but other than that I don't think this is that bad, although the ult reminds me of a combination of WR and WD.

AbyssPetra · 07-28-2009, 03:50 PM

Rest is fine with me, but got a question about the ulti, it doesnt have a duration? or only shoots once? but it says "per second" or maybe its like Ursa old Overpower. 200%~400% IAS?

CedeoCedeo · 07-28-2009, 03:55 PM

sry, added duration now

king_james · 07-28-2009, 05:52 PM

Sought to be one of the failures of the Khan-Dya'kar tribe, Kaarogan was banished from the lands of Azeroth, succeeding his failure to slay the monster he opposed. Oppressed of his melee combat, he pursued the mastery of the crossbow, thought to be one of the most disgraceful ranks amongst the Centaurs. Sheer will-power and intuition was all an outlaw needed and soon, Karoogan found himself choosing between sides, to bring his lightning fast arrows that are almost impeccable, and somehow tend to discharge amongst foes. Karoogar conveys his heart, and his prized-possession, his sole weapon, to the battlefield only to oppose once again those who have doubted him.

Good enough? Good changes OP. Keep it up, maybe you should change the template, it seems a little disorganized. Check this template out, its really neat.

CedeoCedeo · 07-29-2009, 07:27 AM

Kthx added Story

07-27-2009, 01:21 PM	#1
CedeoCedeo Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	[Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw __________________________________________________ CHANGE LOG July 28th, 2009 • posted hero • increased 1st skill dmg a bit • changed 2nd skill effect • fully reworked ulti • changed 3rd skill effect on ulti • buffed 1rst skill • nerfed 2nd skill • added ulti icon • changed 2nd skill effect 2 times July 29th, 2009 • buffed 3rd skill a bit • changed stat gain a bit (2 times) • lowered ulti proc chance @ 3rd skill • raised ulti cd a bit • added ulti duration • added scepter effect on ulti • added some colour stuff • did some text changes • added story • minor change to 3rd skill slow • changed 2nd skill theme • increased 1st skill cooldown a bit July 30th, 2009 • changed agha ulti effect • changed 2nd skill theme again • added 1st skill Visibility • added some skill information • Completely changed Template! • Raised stat gain a bit July 31th, 2009 • heavily nerfed ulti duration. • changed bonus attack proc chance on 3rd skill • added 2nd skill casting time • changed 3rd skill effect on ulti • added damage to 1st skill arrow, but lowered 1st skill charge damage • reduced interval between 2nd skill hoofstomps August 1st, 2009 • added selfslow effect to ulti, slightly buffed duration • changed a few things about the 1st skill (range, skill info) August 2nd, 2009 • lowered 2nd skill aoe a bit • changed 2nd skill name • lowered ulti manacost • added another ulti agha effect • removed aghanims effect that reduces ulti manacost August 21th, 2009 • remade 3rd skill ! • huge change to 2nd skill effect ! • another huge change to 2nd skill effect • small chance to 3rd skill effect August 25th, 2009 • made ult selfslow same on all levels • 1st skill can now charge throught trees August 29th, 2009 • raised 1st skill casting range September 27th, 2009 • added some extra information to 2nd skill September 29th, 2009 • changed starting stats, stat gain • changed ulti 2nd skill AoE a bit September 30th, 2009 • changed ulti range-gain • changed some color stuff • raised 1st skill range • added 2nd skill framework info October 1st, 2009 • changed all 'crossbow's to 'shortbow' • Changed 3rd Skill Icon! October 31st, 2009 • changed numbers of 3rd skill • changed 1st skill icon November 5th, 2009 • raised int gain un poco ;D • little damage added at 3rd skill • finally put the changelogs in [spoiler,] tags • changed stuff about the ultimate November 6th, 2009 • buffed 1st skill a little • changed stuff about the 2nd skill • changed slow duration of 2nd skill November 8th, 2009 • updated story November 14th, 2009 • added 3rd skill passive borders November 29th, 2009 • buffed 3rd skill a bit __________________________________________________ INTRODUCTION Summon Kaarogan Assumed to be one of the failures of the Khan-Dya'kar tribe, Kaarogan was banished from the lands of Azeroth, ensuing his failure to slay the monster he opposed. Subjugated of his melee combat, he pursued the mastery of the shortbow, which was thought to be one of the most disgraceful rank of weaponry amongst the Centaurs. With the adaptation amongst the forests in which he dwelled upon, he soon learned to control the forsaken loam to trap his enemies, slowly, incapacitating them to their demeaning death, whether by his stout form or his swift arrow. But with every piece of courage upon his heart, and his prized-possession, his sole weapon, Kaarogan tends to oppose once again those who have doubted him in the glorious battlefield. Credits for the Story go to king_james Strenght - 21 + 2.4 (Main Attribute) Agility - 17 + 1.7 Intelligence - 17 + 1.6 Learns Signal Arrow, Quicksand, Shortbow Mastery and Assault Attack range of 600 Movement speed of 300 __________________________________________________ HERO INFORMATION Affiliation: Neutral Role: Ganker, Chaser Theme: Centaurs, Shortbow Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw Starting Hitpoints: 549 Starting Mana: 221 Starting Damage: 49-56 Starting Armor: 3 __________________________________________________ HERO ABILITIES Signal Arrow Kaarogan fires a lit up arrow, once it hits the target point, Kaarogan charges to that point. Can charge through trees, destroying them, but not through unpassable terrain, neither through units. The arrow moves with 1000 Speed, the arrow will not be stopped by anything, it will deal damage by passing through units , Kaarogan will charge with 522 Speed, the Charge stops when the path is blocked by unpassable terrain or an enemy unit. This unit will then recieve damage, be stunned for 1 second while getting knocked back by 130 units. Level 1 - 65 Arrow Damage. 75 Charge Damage. Level 2 - 90 Arrow Damage. 95 Charge Damage. Level 3 - 115 Arrow Damage. 125 Charge Damage. Level 4 - 135 Arrow Damage. 155 Charge Damage. In Depth Explanation Arrow damage is Magical, Charge damage is physical. Also, once the arrow has stopped travelling, the targeted point for the charge will be marked with a flaming arrow, which will only be visible to Kaarogan and his allies. Duration is until Charge is stopped. Casting Range is 700/825/950/1075 Casting Time is animation only Cooldown: 16 seconds at all Levels Mana Cost: 85/95/105/115 __________________________________________________ Quicksand In years of suriviving in the wilderness, Kaarogan learned to control the earth in order to suck his foes in more and more as they desperately try to fight themselves out. Creates a 300/380/460/540 Aoe Area of quicksand, that slows enemies when they are moving. Effect fades after 1/1.75/2.5/3.25 seconds of standing still inside the quicksand. If the slow gets removed from a hero by standing for x seconds, the hero will get the buff 'Awareness', that renders him immune to 'Quicksand' for 5 seconds. Cap of 60% Slow. Slow lasts 3/4/4/5 seconds after leaving the quicksand area Level 1 - Quicksand initially slows enemies by 10% of their MS and for an additional 3% of their MS for every .75 seconds moving in Quicksand. Level 2 - Quicksand initially slows enemies by 14% of their MS and for an additional 5% of their MS for every .75 seconds moving in Quicksand. Level 3 - Quicksand initially slows enemies by 18% of their MS and for an additional 7% of their MS for every .75 seconds moving in Quicksand. Level 4 - Quicksand initially slows enemies by 22% of their MS and for an additional 9% of their MS for every .75 seconds moving in Quicksand. In Depth Explanation The quicksand will slow the affected units as they are moving. If the affected units will not move the effect will fade after x seconds of standing. Duration of quicksand area is 3.75/4.5/5.25/6 seconds Casting Range is 575/650/725/800 Casting Time is 0.75 seconds Cooldown: 27/24/21/18 Mana Cost: 110/120/130/140 Framework: I'm not sure about the framework, but I imagine some kind of Sand moving towards the centre, the affected units should be ckind of covered in sand too. Huge thanks to dixing for his help! __________________________________________________ Shortbow Mastery Kaarogan, though a master of the shortbow, can only bring his skill to perfection when he is able to take aim. Kaarogans normal attacks now deal extra damage to standing targets or half the damage to targets who are slowed by at least 32%/29%/26%/23% of their MS. Level 1 - +20(10)% Damage. Level 2 - +30(15)% Damage. Level 3 - +45(22.5)% Damage. Level 4 - +60(30)% Damage. In Depth Explanation +dmg will apply once the attack has reached the target. Duration is none Casting Range is none Casting Time is none Cooldown: none Mana Cost: none __________________________________________________ Assault Kaarogan fully focuses his powers on his shortbow, which makes him able to fire arrows so fast that he can even move while doing it. Kaarogan will begin to fire x arrow a second on random enemies in 650/700/750 AoE around him, he wont need to do an attack animation while doing that, he can even move while shooting. Works with 'Shortbow Mastery'. For the duration, his attackrange wil be raised by 50/100/150. However, while fully focusing on his enemies, he won't be able to move at his maximum speed. His Ms will be reduced by 18%. Removes all your bonus damage while in 'Assault'. Level 1 - 2 arrows per second. Level 2 - 3 arrows per second Level 3 - 4 arrows per second. Note : -10% Selfslow with scepter In Depth Explanation Duration is 5.5/6.5/7.5 seconds Casting Range is none Casting Time is none Cooldown: 150/130/110 - 20 sec CD with scepter Mana Cost: 165/185/205 Well, I guess that's it. Icey prolly won't even notice him but whatever

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07-27-2009, 01:25 PM	#2
savorxit Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 430	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw perma stun ult? nty. __________________ My common responces: 1) Another pointless suggestion. 2) Cool story, bro. 3) Obvious troll is... well you know.

07-27-2009, 01:28 PM	#3
Baldoro Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Poland Posts: 992	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw <ThereWasSomethingReaden> Would be nice to have a shooting Centaur, however the skills aren't good :x Needs much work, null vote. __________________ My Hero - Grothorned, The Kodo Rider! [Now with a wonderful test map by Lord of theDing!]

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07-27-2009, 01:31 PM	#4
CedeoCedeo Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw Specify please

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07-27-2009, 01:43 PM	#5
CedeoCedeo Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw sry dp

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07-27-2009, 01:53 PM	#6
Zirath Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wherever Posts: 1,836	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw Double post? o.O 1. Projectiles moving at 500 is very slow. Most missiles move around 1000-1500. I'm not really sure how this skill works. I guess you fire and arrow and then charge until you hit something? 2. Ridiculous. Not only is it cosmetically irritating (a centaur summoning a Golem, really? You don't see a problem with this?), it is also overpowered in its effect. 3. This is okay. A little boring, but okay. 4. Stun arrow is inherently overpowered. Its a 5 second CD stun. If you get close, then you will own them very hard. You need to seriously rethink this. Its cosmetically awkward and the skills are too strong. I'll give more suggestions if you want, but it looks like you might already be satisfied with your hero as it is. __________________ While I have partially returned to the forums, I am still not making test maps. If you have a small request, you can PM and I will try to work something out, but I do not have the time to make full test maps.

07-27-2009, 05:14 PM	#7
CedeoCedeo Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw So, I totally reworked the ulti. HF

07-27-2009, 05:39 PM	#9
CedeoCedeo Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw I thought the 2nd skill is kind of making a synergy with his other spells but ok, I changed it a bit

07-27-2009, 06:42 PM	#11
CedeoCedeo Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw Another change

07-27-2009, 08:28 PM	#12
Talor Karos Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 79	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw Good set of skills... I see good potential in synergies... I kinda LOL on the third skill because his attack speed/AGI is kinda low... it also reminds me of Geminate attack but this skill is better because it also triggers on casting his skills... not on item, I hope... MKB would really be a great item for this hero especially when the ulti is on... :P __________________ STARCRAFT II \| DIABLO III Review My Suggestions: Shor'anan Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

07-28-2009, 05:24 AM	#13
CedeoCedeo Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw no comments anymore ?

07-28-2009, 08:07 AM	#14
CedeoCedeo Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw Bump

07-28-2009, 02:44 PM	#15
king_james Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Makati City, Philippines Posts: 4,153 Blog Entries: 6	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw I wanna say before i review; I really like this hero. I see some definite good synergys. Now lets get on to a badass review... king_james style; crab-dribbling MVP-ing, dunkin' shit over KOBE style!!!! Alright, let's get on with it: Signal Arrow: (10/10) - Unique. I love it. Not only are the mechanics cool, its an awesome way to chase, he can really slow down an enemy with this skill by making himself faster. At first when i saw this skill, i thought it was going to be an autocast; LMAO. I would laugh if it were; thank God it isn't. I like the charge-effect-damage and the knockback thing, really makes him look like he's melee at that moment. Explosive Arrow: (9/10) - I see potential in this since when your chasing, you need something to slow the enemy down. This does that, and this opens up some great synergy, leading me to lean toward liking this skill. Solid skill, good synergy, no problems. Crossbow Mastery: (7.2/10) - Crossbow Mastery is much like a lot of ideas I've seen through DA, DP and now here at PD. Its like every other archer hero i see, i seem to come across a double attacking dude, the exact counterpart of a weaver. Although the mechanics seem balance so its pretty good. Assault: (8.7/10) - Another skill that I have seen throughout archer heroes. I agree with Zirath about how this has been suggested numerous times, but this hero completely fits in with Assault. If I'm right, every arrow Assault deploys thereafter alots a 14/20/26/32% chance for another arrow right? If so, then it would be a little imbalanced, hehe. I see a lot of Windrunner in this skill, but hey, its still cool. Overall: (8.7/10) - Overall, everything seems to be smooth. Not bad, not bad at all, this hero. It has some pretty good synergy, one of the reasons why i came to lke Kaarogan. For the story, I'll be supplying you, if you want. Just tell me and I'll be off writing. I dunno about this hero before is reworking, but I'm sure glad this was remade, in favor of the previous comments. Good luck OP. __________________ My pride and honor:

07-28-2009, 02:48 PM	#16
savorxit Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 430	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw watch the double posts just a heads up. but other than that I don't think this is that bad, although the ult reminds me of a combination of WR and WD. __________________ My common responces: 1) Another pointless suggestion. 2) Cool story, bro. 3) Obvious troll is... well you know.

07-28-2009, 03:55 PM	#18
CedeoCedeo Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw sry, added duration now

07-28-2009, 05:52 PM	#19
king_james Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Makati City, Philippines Posts: 4,153 Blog Entries: 6	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw Sought to be one of the failures of the Khan-Dya'kar tribe, Kaarogan was banished from the lands of Azeroth, succeeding his failure to slay the monster he opposed. Oppressed of his melee combat, he pursued the mastery of the crossbow, thought to be one of the most disgraceful ranks amongst the Centaurs. Sheer will-power and intuition was all an outlaw needed and soon, Karoogan found himself choosing between sides, to bring his lightning fast arrows that are almost impeccable, and somehow tend to discharge amongst foes. Karoogar conveys his heart, and his prized-possession, his sole weapon, to the battlefield only to oppose once again those who have doubted him. Good enough? Good changes OP. Keep it up, maybe you should change the template, it seems a little disorganized. Check this template out, its really neat. __________________ My pride and honor:

07-29-2009, 07:27 AM	#20
CedeoCedeo Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	Re: [Str/Neutral]Kaarogan, the Centaur Outlaw Kthx added Story