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Old 03-25-2013, 04:46 AM   #1
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Default Who Is the Most Problematic Hero In Dota 2?


I think it's one of these: Magnus, Batrider, Nyx, KotL, Naix
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:47 AM   #2
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Drow, Nyx, Naix, Magnus.

Icefrog just doesn't know what to do to get them working properly and keeps changing their abilities in every single version.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:47 AM   #3
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I don't think it's the heroes that are problematic. I think it's the players who don't want to adapt with an ever changing game are what causing the problems.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:48 AM   #4
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Nyxnyxnyx, Cancer Lancer, Keeper of the Cancer, Mag and Batskater are the most frustarting to play against at the moment.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:50 AM   #5
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They're all pretty OP.
I'd have to say Mag though.
I hate that guy.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:50 AM   #6
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I don't think it's the heroes that are problematic. I think it's the players who don't want to adapt with an ever changing game are what causing the problems.
Well the game can never be truly 100% balanced, so even if it was 99% balanced, there would always be a most problematic hero

Who do you think it is?
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:00 AM   #7
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Drow is problematic because of overnerf.

PL Naix Nyx are problematic because of overbuff.

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I don't think it's the heroes that are problematic. I think it's the players who don't want to adapt with an ever changing game are what causing the problems.
no one can adapt to a hero being fully muted just by having an enemy standing still next to it.

i mean drow.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:04 AM   #8
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Drow is problematic because of overnerf.

PL Naix Nyx are problematic because of overbuff.

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no one can adapt to a hero being fully muted just by having an enemy standing still next to it.

i mean drow.
She was already lackluster at best; this latest nerf just makes her completely unplayable. I don't understand the logic behind nerfing shit tier heroes into an even worse state. Maybe they'll nerf Huskar and Bloodseeker next
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:07 AM   #9
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She was already lackluster at best; this latest nerf just makes her completely unplayable. I don't understand the logic behind nerfing shit tier heroes into an even worse state. Maybe they'll nerf Huskar and Bloodseeker next
i'm hoping for pudge nerf.

above all heroes he's the one who should be nerfed.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:16 AM   #10
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Kotl bat and Nyx are the most problematic, followed by Dark Seer and Mag imo, PL is somewhat problematic, as is Sylla
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:27 AM   #11
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PL and nyx for sure, Nyx is an easy fix, just nerf his spiked carapace to only block first instance of hero damage, not 1 per hero.

For pl, his image spawnrate needs a little nerf and his stat buff needs to be reverted
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:32 AM   #12
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PL and nyx for sure, Nyx is an easy fix, just nerf his spiked carapace to only block first instance of hero damage, not 1 per hero.

For pl, his image spawnrate needs a little nerf and his stat buff needs to be reverted
I like how your fix is to put them back where they were when everyone considered them shit (worse than that for PL).
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:39 AM   #13
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Kotl bat and Nyx are the most problematic, followed by Dark Seer and Mag imo, PL is somewhat problematic, as is Sylla
Yeah Dark Seer is an issue too
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:04 AM   #14
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They definitely need to either reduce the radius of Batrider's oil or reduce its stack time. You cannot lane against a batrider that maxes that out first in any tangible manner. I think the splash radius is just too big.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:47 AM   #15
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:10 AM   #16
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Nyxnyxnyx, Cancer Lancer, Keeper of the Cancer, Mag and Batskater are the most frustarting to play against at the moment.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:27 AM   #17
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Nyxnyxnyx, Cancer Lancer, Keeper of the Cancer, Mag and Batskater are the most frustarting to play against at the moment.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:56 AM   #18
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Bristleback is really frustrating to play. Not only are his skills so awkward and are hard to use, his ultimate is very hard to keep up for a long period of time.
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:02 AM   #19
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Bristleback is really frustrating to play. Not only are his skills so awkward and are hard to use, his ultimate is very hard to keep up for a long period of time.
Spamming both skills for your ultimate to keep up , but Goo has a bad cast animation .
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:26 AM   #20
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I think the most problematic heroes are the strongest ones:
Wisp, Magnus, Bat
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:43 AM   #22
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:54 AM   #23
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:54 AM   #24
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Imo the most problematic hero is Pudge, his wombo-combo is not only hard to survive but also easy to land (basically one skillshot and You can utilize all Your skills perfectly, it would be interesting for his ultimate to also be a skillshot).
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:55 AM   #25
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Nyx, this hero just not-counter-able.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:50 AM   #27
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Kotl has always been that way - shoot lasers and make laning phase a bitch.

Nyx - Sure, cockaroach man is strong - but not impossible to stop.

PL - AGI gain was fine, a little over-the-top by .2 points. Magic resistance on his ultimate is 2 stronk however.

Magnus - Pretty stronk

Batrider - I remember there was an STR buff on him and clockwerk which made them beasts, maybe tick that down just a little?

Naix - Always been like that, qq riot.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:59 AM   #28
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PL's illusions have not enough drawback other than that game is fine imo.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:08 PM   #30
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Magnus. Its atm just too hard to counter his ultimate when bkb doesnt work and game is about deathball and 5man doto. Basically a free chrono for whole team
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:47 PM   #32
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:49 PM   #33
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Drow, Nyx, Naix, Magnus.

Icefrog just doesn't know what to do to get them working properly and keeps changing their abilities in every single version.
Nai'x hasn't really received any dramatic changes ever since his remake in 2010.. damn I think the remake was even earlier like 2008(9). Drow hadn't been changed for years and just recently received some big changed to her ult and passive, the notable notable change before that was the attack speed removal from frost arrows.
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Gyro copter and pl. Especially gyro, the hero is insane at every stage of the game and doesn't even require that much farm to rape
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NP. He can ruin the push of all your three lanes, gank you, disable you (if farmed, something he can do with much ease)
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:11 PM   #37
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It has to be nyx, being constantly spoken to inside your own head has to leave you mentally retarded at some point, and as we can see from his voicelines he has passed that point
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:13 PM   #38
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i'd say magnus right now. i mean usually when support heros are safe picks it's ok because they don't really scale and get crushed late game, which is their balancing chip. but magnus is a stunning strength hero off carry that can do everything and has absolutely no weaknesses, not to mention he's piss easy to play.

I think people just want him to be left alone because they lock him in 3 out of 4 games when playing in a 5 stack with "cute" names and unsurprisingly their win rate goes up. tryhard hero for tryhards and all that.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:41 PM   #39
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A good chunk of the hero pool.

Magnus, Nyx, Bat, etc: Strong laning, strong disables, useful all game.
Naix, gyro, CK, etc: Hard carries that are useful early game.
TA: Having half of one of her abilities countered by certain heroes doesn't justify her raping the other 95% of the hero pool.
PL, Lone Druid: Hard carries that get ridiculous amounts of stats for free. The whole point of a hard carry is that they're NOT supposed to get much for free, but rather they're supposed to farm it.
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Cancer lancer hands down. Once he gets his core he can split push by himself while your team takes the 3rd lane. Besides that in a pub sense warlock, probably best initiator/counter initiator in the game and really effective lane support. I think kolt was deserving of his nerf, hard to tell yet the effect. Naix is counterable by things like bat/bm/cancer lancer/bane/forcestaff/ghost scepter/halberd/ect.
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