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Old 04-11-2013, 09:33 PM   #41
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bat rider with -5 base str seems unnecessarily harsh. He'll die in 2 hit during laning phase.

Also DP 2sec cd carrion swarm.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:46 PM   #42
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There's one thing that makes it fake:


Icefrog doesn't remove heroes' core weaknesses, he buffs their strengths.
Huskar is at such a low tier that it would be the only change that actually make sense in this entire fake changelog.

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bat rider with -5 base str seems unnecessarily harsh. He'll die in 2 hit during laning phase.

Also DP 2sec cd carrion swarm.
Batrider is going to get nerfed far more than that, he is currently the strongest hero in the game.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:33 PM   #43
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Yea this is probably fake but people need to stop bringing up the not possible in WC3 engine nonsense. Eventually Dota 2 will make changes not possible in Dota. Purists will cry and moan but its just evolution of the game.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:45 PM   #44
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Huskar is at such a low tier that it would be the only change that actually make sense in this entire fake changelog.

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Batrider is going to get nerfed far more than that, he is currently the strongest hero in the game.
Huskar definitely needs a buff but Icefrog would probably do something like buff the ult or the damage from BB. Or maybe another burning spears buff.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:46 PM   #45
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This is as legit as Carl
Also this would break CM
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:43 PM   #46
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Yea this is probably fake but people need to stop bringing up the not possible in WC3 engine nonsense. Eventually Dota 2 will make changes not possible in Dota. Purists will cry and moan but its just evolution of the game.
Keep on dreaming, letting dota 1 die will just lead dota 2 to its destruction

the only few decent people who play dota 2 are just there because of dota 1 new content hype being ported to dota 2, dota 2 alone is just another moba hero arena that if dota 1 dies it will be full of dumb people from lol and hon and the community will die.

tldr: dota 2 will always depend on dota 1 until new people gt used to it like the old wc3, it will take at least 3 - to 5 years for that happen AFTER the release of the game.

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evolution of the game.
stop with this, is not evolution is just copying an already existing game to get money.

wit hthat said, we still have dota 1 and dota 2 parity for much years yet because of the powerful wc3 engine and fanbase.

Yeah well sorry reality hits you hard sometimes dota 2 fans.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:45 PM   #47
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Keep on dreaming, letting dota 1 die will just lead dota 2 to its destruction

the only few decent people who play dota 2 are just there because of dota 1 new content hype being ported to dota 2, dota 2 alone is just another moba hero arena that if dota 1 dies it will be full of dumb people from lol and hon and the community will die.

tldr: dota 2 will always depend on dota 1 until new people gt used to it like the old wc3, it will take at least 3 - to 5 five years for that happen AFTER the release of the game.



stop with this, is not evolution is just copying an already existing game to get money.

wit hthat said, we still have dota 1 and dota 2 parity for much years yet because of the powerful wc3 engine and fanbase.

Yeah well sorry reality hits you hard sometimes dota 2 fans.
The only reason people play wc3 dota is greedy or poor russians with wooden computers.
Wait for dota 2 being out of beta and see how dota 1 slowly dies
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:59 PM   #48
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The only reason people play wc3 dota is greedy or poor russians with wooden computers.
Wait for dota 2 being out of beta and see how dota 1 slowly dies
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it will take at least 3 - to 5 years for that happen AFTER the release of the game.
clearly you don't read enough.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:58 AM   #49
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Without reading it i can clearly say that your log makes way too much sense for it to be real. Its too overlogical ....

Thats not how dota is balanced. its not like this, there wont be strict rules ro stuff that on every hero is likewise the same....

If you try to balance dota in a way to make it a polished ball that is absolutly perfect, then your doing it wrong, totaly wrong....
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:46 AM   #50
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Phantom Assassin:
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Blur visual effect should be more like in WC3 Dota


wish it was true.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:10 AM   #51
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life steal mask price reduce to 400 gold.

Dagger price reduced to 600 gold - cooldown reduced to 5sec

Force staff recipe removed - cooldown reduced to 7sec









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Old 04-12-2013, 03:08 AM   #52
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Wisp:
Relocate now can be upgraded by AS (Delay before teleport decreased to 2/1.5/1; cooldown decreased to 75/60/45; duration increased by 2; gives u extra ability to return to where you teleported from instantly)

wisp + pudge reverse fountain camping.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:09 AM   #53
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FYI, there were several ''leaks'' before that was actually true, although it didn't come in a full changelog.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:20 AM   #54
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If this changelog is true (which I'm not sure if it is or not), then I really can't hold my anticipation! I like how Icefrog is addressing most of the issues with the game, like Morph's suckiness, Mirana etc. This changelog will definitely be a good thing once it hits dota. And best of all, my favorite initiator (Batrider) wasn't nerfed to shit.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:25 AM   #55
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Eventually Dota 2 will make changes not possible in Dota. Purists will cry and moan but its just evolution of the game.
Agreed,
I want WC3-DotA to die & disappear! It's holding DotA 2 back.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:27 AM   #56
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Agreed,
I want WC3-DotA to die & disappear! It's holding DotA 2 back.
I agree as well. There are so many hero concepts that are available, but they have to be held back because WC3 can't handle. Icefrog should break all ties with WC3 Dota and just continue improving Dota 2.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:32 AM   #57
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base armor increase on everyone.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:43 AM   #58
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Huskar definitely needs a buff but Icefrog would probably do something like buff the ult or the damage from BB. Or maybe another burning spears buff.
That would be such a bad way of doing it. He needs a rework, not number buffs. Number buffs in general are just a lazy, bad and imbalanced way to buff a hero.

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I agree as well. There are so many hero concepts that are available, but they have to be held back because WC3 can't handle. Icefrog should break all ties with WC3 Dota and just continue improving Dota 2.
Aware us on these concepts, please. By the way, Dota 2 has about 2 to 3 years left of development before all heroes are ported and all bugs get fixed so how would it change anything if WC3 DotA stopped being updated today?
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:51 AM   #59
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I would say this patch is like a LoL patch not a dota patch. Everything got buffed.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:53 AM   #60
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That would be such a bad way of doing it. He needs a rework, not number buffs. Number buffs in general are just a lazy, bad and imbalanced way to buff a hero.

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Aware us on these concepts, please. By the way, Dota 2 has about 2 to 3 years left of development before all heroes are ported and all bugs get fixed so how would it change anything if WC3 DotA stopped being updated today?
There are countless possibilities for many heroes. WC3 is the only thing that makes that number finite, when it should be infinite.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:56 AM   #61
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There are countless possibilities for many heroes. WC3 is the only thing that makes that number finite, when it should be infinite.
Yea and I'm only asking you for one or two of those infinite concepts.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:58 AM   #62
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Yea and I'm only asking you for one or two of those infinite concepts.
Lol dude, I don't have any examples, because I just don't have any. What I mean is, Icefrog has to design heroes by the boundaries of the WC3 engine.
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:06 AM   #63
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:47 AM   #64
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Yea and I'm only asking you for one or two of those infinite concepts.
How about a hero who can burrow underground and move at the same time?

How about a mana leech skill?

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Old 04-12-2013, 04:59 AM   #65
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Mirana:
Base dmg. increased by 7
MS increased by 15
Sacred Arrow cooldown decreased from 17 to 13
Moonlight Shadow now gives extra 20/35/50 of MS

Weaver:
MS increased by 5
Missile Speed increased from 900 to 1050
Geminate Attack cooldown decreased from 6/5/4/2.5 to 6/4.25/3.3/2.5
If these happened I would be over the moon, but sadly it's a fake. You can tell by retarded amount of buffs and the severe lack of nerfs, that's just not how IF balances the game. Also Doom is suddenly 3 Base armor? I really doubt he'd give him THAT much.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:21 AM   #66
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The fact that so many here thinks these changes are good really tells something about the average skill-level of PD
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:22 AM   #67
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I hope this patch is a big lie. I cannot stand a patch in which 5 heroes are nerfed and 80 are buffed.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:24 AM   #68
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The fact that so many here thinks these changes are good really tells something about the average skill-level of PD
But they are good, aren't they? To be honest, I agree that the insane number of armor buffs are pretty stupid and far fetched, but honestly, the buff that I'm looking forward to the most is Morphling's. He deserves it.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:27 AM   #69
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I see buffs to dk? OMG fucking noobs need to level up breath + get soul ring instead of going stun first which SCALES SO THERE'S NO NEED TO LEVEL UP EARLY.

god


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Base Attack Time increased from 1.25/1.2/1.15/1.1 to 1.1

that's impossible in war 3 you only have 1 base attack time so this changelog is shit and false
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:34 AM   #70
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The fact that so many here thinks these changes are good really tells something about the average skill-level of PD
cant expect much from PD pros
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:43 AM   #71
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lol mods can't even close this thread because even they don't have interaction with IceFrog
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Agreed,
I want WC3-DotA to die & disappear! It's holding DotA 2 back.
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I agree as well. There are so many hero concepts that are available, but they have to be held back because WC3 can't handle. Icefrog should break all ties with WC3 Dota and just continue improving Dota 2.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:03 AM   #73
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You do know how many limitations the WC3 engine has, don't you?
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:07 AM   #74
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You do know how many limitations the WC3 engine has, don't you?
No, he does not. Most people don't. The average poster here has never used galaxy editor, so much as even opening the program, much less actually creating or editing a map

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Well, he's right. Warcraft 3 came out in 2002, and it's map editor was not designed with Dota in 2013 in mind. There's a lot of stuff that could, and would be different, if it was actually possible to do with the tools we were given
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:32 AM   #75
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Is there a single soul that believes that this changelog is true? Come on, 2 sec DP nuke, 1.25% mp regen aura on CM, 600 range maledict.
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Is there a single soul that believes that this changelog is true? Come on, 2 sec DP nuke, 1.25% mp regen aura on CM, 600 range maledict.
Who knows? As crazy as it may sound, it might be. Sure ,there is the possibility that this entire changelog is fake, but you have to take that there is a chance (albeit slim) to it being true. And honestly, some of the changes suggested on this changelog are actually pretty good!
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:40 AM   #77
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Did you guys see that specter ROLF, some of those changes looked so funny.
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Did you guys see that specter ROLF, some of those changes looked so funny.
To be honest, I liked a few of them. Like Brood's and Morph's. They really need those buffs right now.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:21 AM   #79
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Is there a single soul that believes that this changelog is true? Come on, 2 sec DP nuke, 1.25% mp regen aura on CM, 600 range maledict.
You get a cookie. I was watching this thread to see how long will it take for PD to realize that DP got a 2 sec CD nuke.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:28 AM   #80
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And none of the changed pertained to dota1-only heroes.
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