[ITEM] Blade of the Elders

[crazy sheep]

crazy sheep's II template

***Blade of the Elders***

~~~Story~~~

A purple-black blade worn only by vampire elders. It senses the wounds of the weak, removing their ability to run far as their wounds open with every step they take.

~~~Stats~~~

Buy recipe to upgrade [max of 3 levels]

Level 1:
+20 Str
+10 damage
+10% AS
Grants orb effect: Pain Level 1

Level 2:
+23 Str
+12 damage
+15% AS
Grants orb effect: Pain Level 2

Level 3:
+26 Str
+14 damage
+20% AS
Grants orb effect: Pain Level 3

~~~Recipe and buildup~~~

Sange-------------------------2250 gold

+

Quarterstaff--------------------900 gold

+

Recipe----------------------------850 gold

=

Midnight's Blade Level 1------4000 gold

~~~Effects explanation~~~

Pain: Every wound the enemy takes hurts their reflexes, slowing them down.

Level 1: For every 10% of max HP lost, 3% slow inflicted. First slow bonus starts at 91 - 100% HP.
Level 2: For every 10% of max HP lost, 5% slow inflicted. First slow bonus starts at 91 - 100% HP.
Level 3: For every 10% of max HP lost, 7% slow inflicted. First slow bonus starts at 91 - 100% HP.

Orb effects do not stack.

~~~Synergy Sections~~~

Hero Synergy

Good For:
Fragile DPSers who need the Str boost

Item Synergy
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[babohtea]

Its a nice concept, and these "diminishing effects" items/abilities are gaining popularity (since nether toxin). However, I'm not sure if Dota really needs this; we already have sandy.

[crazy sheep]

Hmm. I'd say this should be fine in DotA. Although on second read it feels like a stacking slow to me. Any comments about the overall balance and stuff?

[kitchen]

Any real reason to make it upgradable?

[NoThlnG]

Originally Posted by kitchen

Any real reason to make it upgradable?

That's what I want to say. I see the concept is fine but I don't find any reason why it needs to be upgraded..

[bimjowen]

Overall idea, I'm not really against. Yasha has its own non-S&Y recipe, so I guess Sange deserves one too.

That said, I could see this item as really irritating in the hands of certain heroes. Think Nightstalker, Naix, etc.

One other thing to note: would you mind changing Quarterstaff to something else? It's already used in like, 38592 recipes.

[crazy sheep]

Well, the upgrade is there for the fact that +20 Str doesn't really scale that well into late game, especially for the heroes this item is meant for.

Mm.. Changing Quarterstaff to what? I wouldn't use any stats items, what could you suggest? Gloves?

[NoThlnG]

Originally Posted by crazy sheep

Well, the upgrade is there for the fact that +20 Str doesn't really scale that well into late game, especially for the heroes this item is meant for.

Mm.. Changing Quarterstaff to what? I wouldn't use any stats items, what could you suggest? Gloves?

How about damage bonus item like javelin, hammer, or claymore?

Or hp regen or armor enhance like RoH, armors, etc.....

Or something like 2 gloves....

Or something like talisman of evasion....

Or boosters...

Or increase the recipes...


I think there are many options here ^^

[Zack1996]

The concept is fine, but I don't like making it upgradeable.
T-Up for concept though, but there might soon be spamming of "For every x health missing... first bonus starts at full health" kind of stuff

[crazy sheep]

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

How about damage bonus item like javelin, hammer, or claymore?

Or hp regen or armor enhance like RoH, armors, etc.....

Or something like 2 gloves....

Or something like talisman of evasion....

Or boosters...

Or increase the recipes...


I think there are many options here ^^

Even with the many options I need something that is decent for the game phase it's designed for. Quarterstaff felt like the best item. And somebody did advise not to use 2 gloves on another item suggestion of mine, so I'm still undecided.

Originally Posted by Zack1996

The concept is fine, but I don't like making it upgradeable.

As I've pointed out above, the reason for upgrading it is because of the +20 Str, which doesn't scale well into the late game.

Originally Posted by Zack1996

T-Up for concept though, but there might soon be spamming of "For every x health missing... first bonus starts at full health" kind of stuff

Well, it would really depend on how creative the idea is. Some ideas might be balanced, like Nethertox, or this one
Others might be outright broken from the start.

[TheDamneD]

T-Up for the concept

Anw the reason why there are recepies is that, in that way is more expensive and if you Gota rush this item to gain str instead of buying 372562 bracers its also good, but if you wana make it your core item...speaks for itself

[[oLe]]

Good idea..especially using it for fragile heroes with no escape mechanism..T-UP

[FlopItOut99]

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

How about damage bonus item like javelin, hammer, or claymore?

Or hp regen or armor enhance like RoH, armors, etc.....

Or something like 2 gloves....

Or something like talisman of evasion....

Or boosters...

Or increase the recipes...


I think there are many options here ^^

claymore sounds good to me. somewhat neglected item imo. this sounds like a cool item btw. and yeah i would like to see sange get another combo item