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Old 07-29-2009, 02:07 PM   #1
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Default [IMPLEMENTED][Voiceset] Vengeful Spirit


NOTE: I found this thread on Dota-Allstars, orginally suggested by Jenova-. Many people, including me, liked it. I think the idea deserves a repost on this site. The original thread can be found here: [VOICESET] Vengeful Spirit - DotA Allstars Discussion.

The suggestion is simple. The current soundset may fit, but imo we should avoid growling soundsets on heros if it is possible.
So lets replace Shendelzare's current soundset (SpiritofVengeance) with Undead Sylvanas ones (EvilSylvanas). It is a female, ghostly sound, often talking about vengeance (If you have played campaigns, you know why). It perfectly fits to her.

The proposed Soundset is not used by Traxex and is currently unused.
It has a slightly unfitting 'Pissed'-Sound (Pissed3), but pissed sounds are normally not heared in games and many heros have unfitting pissed sounds, too (Nevermore or Lanaya for example).

Light-Coke requested the Quotes of the Soundset. Infrisios posted the translations. Here we go:
Warcry: Victory draws near!
What1: Show me a target
What2: I am here
What3: Give your order
What4: I'm listening
Yes1: It's time to even the scales
Yes2: Done
Yes3: I have no time for games
Yes4: The moment is upon us
Yes5: Of course
Attack1: Show them no mercy
Attack2: Push the attack
Attack3: Let none survive
Attack4: May my aim be true
Pissed1: My will is my own
Pissed2: I have my own reasons for seeking vengeance
Pissed3: Arthas murdered my people and turned me into this...monstrosity (the unfitting)
Pissed4: What are we if not slaves to this torment?

Pros:
-Currently unused
-No MSI
-Imo better than a stupid growling
-Fits to her Vengeance-Theme


Cons:
-People never wanna try out new things



If you're too lazy to listen to the sound in WorldEditor or Campaign, I created a test map:
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File Type: w3x Shendelzare Sound.w3x (38.1 KB, 1159 views)
 
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:09 PM   #2
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED][Voiceset] Vengeful Spirit

Could you give some lines what she says?
Like "I seek for vengeance", et cetera.
 
Old 07-29-2009, 02:12 PM   #3
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I'm really sorry, since I have the German Wc3 version, I can't quote in English. For that I added the test map. I could only give you the German quotes or TRY to translate it.
 
Old 07-29-2009, 02:17 PM   #4
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I'm really sorry, since I have the German Wc3 version, I can't quote in English. For that I added the test map. I could only give you the German quotes or TRY to translate it.
Could do. And some other guy with more language-knowledge could even improve them. Give it a try dude.
 
Old 07-29-2009, 02:50 PM   #5
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I got both versions, gonna check for the original...

*Warcry: Victory draws near!
What1: Show me a target
What2: I am here
*What3: Give your order
What4: I'm listening
*Yes1: It's time to even the scales
*Yes2: Done
*Yes3: I have no time for games
*Yes4: The moment is upon us [if I understood her correctly]
*Yes5: Of course
Attack1: Show them no mercy
*Attack2: Push the attack
*Attack3: Let none survive
*Attack4: May my aim be true
*Pissed1: My will is my own
Pissed2: I have my own reasons for seeking vengeance
*Pissed3: Arthas murdered my people and turned me into this...monstrosity
*Pissed4 (!!!): What are we if not slaves to this torment?

a * in front of it means that it must be corrected.

Anyway, T-Up.
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:53 PM   #6
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Let infri fix them. I already like them. Don't think pretty girls should growl =(
 
Old 07-29-2009, 03:04 PM   #7
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Thank you for the translation, Infrisios.
Btw, @ Light-Coke... Why are you so fast? You posted 2 minutes after I opened this thread! o.O
 
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Old 07-29-2009, 03:12 PM   #8
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Quote:
Warcry: Victory draws near!
Makes sense. Pretty normal thing to say.

Quote:
What1: Show me a target
Normal

Quote:
What2: I am here
Normal

Quote:
What3: Give your order
Normal

Quote:
What4: I'm listening
Normal

Quote:
Yes1: It's time to even the scales
Very fitting. She wants vengeance, justice, to even scales.

Quote:
Yes2: Done
Normal

Quote:
Yes3: I have no time for games
She wants to kill Mortred fast

Quote:
Yes4: The moment is upon us
Completing vengeance is near

Quote:
Yes5: Of course
Normal

Quote:
Attack1: Show them no mercy
Vengeful

Quote:
Attack2: Push the attack
Normal

Quote:
Attack3: Let none survive
She's pretty pissed and wants hardcore vengeance.

Quote:
Attack4: May my aim be true
Normal.

Quote:
Pissed1: My will is my own
She has her own will. She is independent. She is so independent that she doesn't care what others says, she just wants vengeance.

Quote:
Pissed2: I have my own reasons for seeking vengeance
She's Vengeful. She seeks vengeance. Whoa.

Quote:
Pissed3: Arthas murdered my people and turned me into this...monstrosity
Kinda unfitting. No reference to her lore or anything else.
Instead of Arthas, she should say Mortred. But she is monstrosity though.

Quote:
Pissed4 (!!!): What are we if not slaves to this torment?
She is so tormented. You know, hate makes you feel bad.



Is this fitting or what? That's lame thing to say, but this is made for her.

Oh, I'm not that fast. Making new topic = It's in the top of the list, and I spot it while hangin' in Suggestion. And my post was semi-spam being so short. I'm not super-dude you know =)
 
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Old 07-29-2009, 03:16 PM   #9
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Agree on this change. I read somewhere that a unit quote can somehow be erased from the entire unit voiceset. If that is true ( need confirmation ) wouldn't it be better to erase the 'Arthas murdered my people and turned me into this...monstrosity' quote?
 
Old 07-29-2009, 03:19 PM   #10
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Thank you for the translation, Infrisios.
Btw, @ Light-Coke... Why are you so fast? You posted 2 minutes after I opened this thread! o.O
np ;-)
And Light-Coke is so fast because he is a nerd (just like 90% of people posting in suggestions and mechanics).
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Old 07-29-2009, 03:19 PM   #11
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Agree on this change. I read somewhere that a unit quote can somehow be erased from the entire unit voiceset. If that is true ( need confirmation ) wouldn't it be better to erase the 'Arthas murdered my people and turned me into this...monstrosity' quote?
Sure, and you can add your own quotes to the voiceset. But then it's not ingame, and hence it's imported, and hence it increases map-size for nothing.

This needs to be confirmed as well.


I'm not nerd. F4k 0ff m4n. I'm just a guy who can use keyboard cause I chat so much with sexy ladies, so I had to learn to be fast so I can keep them all satisfied.
 
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I'm not nerd. F4k 0ff m4n. I'm just a guy who can use keyboard cause I chat so much with sexy ladies, so I had to learn to be fast so I can keep them all satisfied.
Ok.
Basically you can replace a quote by re-importing, but it'd be waste of mapspace to erase a "pissed" sound, which only plays after clicking her long enough.
Edit: Plus, it would be problematic to re-import stuff due to different language versions.
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:15 PM   #13
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Nice fix. I remember this from DA. T-Up.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:27 PM   #14
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T-up, It fits.

HOWEVER:
I really like growly sounds (centaur is so funny).
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Implement this... now!
 
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Really fitting. T-up
 
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T-Up... Really fits
 
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED][Voiceset] Vengeful Spirit

the only problem is that vengeful doesn't "open" her mouth in the portrait when talking...
it would look weird, but nobody looks at hero's portrait anyway

overall, I'll give it a half T-up
 
Old 07-30-2009, 03:41 PM   #19
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED][Voiceset] Vengeful Spirit

the soundset is probably the coolest in game. however, i dont hink it fits vs. she should share spectre's more likely.

why? cause her lips don't move! it would seem dumb.

give trax this, the darkranger soundset doesnt fit her at all (this does)
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Default re: [IMPLEMENTED][Voiceset] Vengeful Spirit

I know the sound set. Sounds a lot better then the current one and is perfect. The Pissed sound files are just there for funnies from Blizz and not to be taken seriously most of the time. T-Up.
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