[BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward

Emzed · 12-22-2009, 12:36 PM

Plz dont be confused by the title, i dont want to change a lot: Death Ward is a nice spell, but I think it could be far more useful and fun to use if it gave

1) True Sight
2) Sight over trees/chokes (like Balanar with Scepter at night, but not that far ofc)

True Sight seems a little OP, but adding only 2) with maybe 1000 AoE sight could be balanced imo.

What do u guys think about my idea?

matrice · 12-22-2009, 05:24 PM

good idea, but only sight on range of the ward (+25)
imo true sight is also op

NoThlnG · 12-22-2009, 11:42 PM

T-Up for unosbstructive sight

Emzed · 12-23-2009, 12:01 AM

My idea is that unobstructive sight on Death Ward makes it a spell with some tactical use instead of damage only, as u can get sight on fleeing enemies and counter mindgames. But as its an ulti-spell, it will probably not be abused for scouting, so it should not buff the spell too much. True Sight would be a severe buff, but could be balanced by an e.g. increase in cooldown. Adding both effects is definitly OP imo.

Black.Lotus · 12-23-2009, 12:20 AM

Not bad suggestion... but I don't know... have some problems atm with it...

LulzYeah · 12-23-2009, 01:20 AM

Nice suggestion. It makes WD a juker-counter. May I know what's Death Ward's sight of range?

Emzed · 12-23-2009, 01:39 AM

1200/800 day/night vision, but ofc these numbers could need a change when unobstructed vision is added. Atm the Ward's vision has almost no importance as WD himself has more vision and stands next to it, so a change is no problem.

LulzYeah · 12-23-2009, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emzed

1200/800 day/night vision, but ofc these numbers could need a change when unobstructed vision is added. Atm the Ward's vision has almost no importance as WD himself has more vision and stands next to it, so a change is no problem.

Here are some suggestions for you :

- Improve cast range on normal Death Ward
- Improve more cast range for Aghanims' Death Ward
- 1500/1500 sight of range

xy4kuz4x · 12-23-2009, 10:01 AM

Good idea . . .

Emzed · 12-23-2009, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xy4kuz4x

Good idea . . .

What exactly do u mean?

Emzed · 12-31-2009, 03:01 PM

bump (unanswered question

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Schremba · 12-31-2009, 03:07 PM

I think the only buff it needs is a MKB-like effect, so it won't miss uphill or on evasion heroes. But your idea isn't bad, either, especially the air-unit sight.

Emzed · 12-31-2009, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schremba

I think the only buff it needs is a MKB-like effect, so it won't miss uphill or on evasion heroes. But your idea isn't bad, either, especially the air-unit sight.

Oh this TrueStrike idea is good too! T-up

MonkeyEx · 12-31-2009, 03:40 PM

T-up on vision over trees..
True Sight can also be added, but need to be balanced by a nerf in other aspects like CD or mana cost

anyway, T-up on True Strike effect too.

xy4kuz4x · 12-31-2009, 08:26 PM

I mean unobstructed vision won't be any problem to him anymore. It's very useful and also anti - ambush by hid enemy.

Dynes · 01-01-2010, 10:39 AM

True Strike uses Critical Strike system, give criticals to Luna/Medusa and see what happens...

T-up for 1500/1500.
T-Up for Unobstructed sight.
T-up for The attack to not miss over cliffs.

Jiltist · 01-01-2010, 10:44 AM

T-up for 1500/1500.
T-Up for Unobstructed sight.
T-up for The attack to not miss over cliffs.

-3d · 01-01-2010, 02:56 PM

Unobstructed vision is fine, true sight is a poor idea.
Instead dust should be usable while channeling spells without interrupting them (similar to Shiva's).

Emzed · 01-01-2010, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -3d

Unobstructed vision is fine, true sight is a poor idea.
Instead dust should be usable while channeling spells without interrupting them (similar to Shiva's).

nice idea!

-3d · 01-02-2010, 10:50 AM

The thing is I'm not sure it's codable, I mean dust exists in normal WC3 so it's probably hard coded, no idea how much work it would be to code a dust that doesn't interrupt channeling spells or if it's possible even but if it is it would be pretty cool imo.

12-22-2009, 12:36 PM	#1
Emzed Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 176	[BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward Plz dont be confused by the title, i dont want to change a lot: Death Ward is a nice spell, but I think it could be far more useful and fun to use if it gave 1) True Sight 2) Sight over trees/chokes (like Balanar with Scepter at night, but not that far ofc) True Sight seems a little OP, but adding only 2) with maybe 1000 AoE sight could be balanced imo. What do u guys think about my idea?

12-22-2009, 05:24 PM	#2
matrice Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 115	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward good idea, but only sight on range of the ward (+25) imo true sight is also op

12-22-2009, 11:42 PM	#3
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12-23-2009, 12:01 AM	#4
Emzed Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 176	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward My idea is that unobstructive sight on Death Ward makes it a spell with some tactical use instead of damage only, as u can get sight on fleeing enemies and counter mindgames. But as its an ulti-spell, it will probably not be abused for scouting, so it should not buff the spell too much. True Sight would be a severe buff, but could be balanced by an e.g. increase in cooldown. Adding both effects is definitly OP imo.

12-23-2009, 12:20 AM	#5
Black.Lotus Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The World Posts: 4,626 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward Not bad suggestion... but I don't know... have some problems atm with it... __________________ <MISSING> Don't like the Switch Mode? Join this group: <Click> <MISSING>

12-23-2009, 01:20 AM	#6
LulzYeah Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Meh.. Posts: 2,537 Blog Entries: 7	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward Nice suggestion. It makes WD a juker-counter. May I know what's Death Ward's sight of range?

12-23-2009, 01:39 AM	#7
Emzed Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 176	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward 1200/800 day/night vision, but ofc these numbers could need a change when unobstructed vision is added. Atm the Ward's vision has almost no importance as WD himself has more vision and stands next to it, so a change is no problem.

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12-23-2009, 10:01 AM	#9
xy4kuz4x Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I live in my house Posts: 1,760 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward Good idea . . . __________________

12-31-2009, 03:01 PM	#11
Emzed Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 176	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward bump (unanswered question )

12-31-2009, 03:07 PM	#12
Schremba Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,051	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward I think the only buff it needs is a MKB-like effect, so it won't miss uphill or on evasion heroes. But your idea isn't bad, either, especially the air-unit sight. __________________ Improve DotA's Terrain Improve Visage's Gravekeeper's Cloak Change the model of the Shop/Protectorate

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12-31-2009, 03:40 PM	#14
MonkeyEx Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: World Down Under aka OzLand Posts: 2,105	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward T-up on vision over trees.. True Sight can also be added, but need to be balanced by a nerf in other aspects like CD or mana cost anyway, T-up on True Strike effect too. __________________ MonkeyEx Hybrid Team Fortress 2 Signature made by: *AvunaOs*

12-31-2009, 08:26 PM	#15
xy4kuz4x Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I live in my house Posts: 1,760 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward I mean unobstructed vision won't be any problem to him anymore. It's very useful and also anti - ambush by hid enemy. __________________

01-01-2010, 10:39 AM	#16
Dynes Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,853 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward True Strike uses Critical Strike system, give criticals to Luna/Medusa and see what happens... T-up for 1500/1500. T-Up for Unobstructed sight. T-up for The attack to not miss over cliffs. __________________ Dynes: I don't believe you. /care ~~My suggestions on my blog.~~ I'll hand it over to DotA 2... for now.

01-01-2010, 10:44 AM	#17
Jiltist Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 14	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward T-up for 1500/1500. T-Up for Unobstructed sight. T-up for The attack to not miss over cliffs.

01-01-2010, 02:56 PM	#18
-3d Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 787	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward Unobstructed vision is fine, true sight is a poor idea. Instead dust should be usable while channeling spells without interrupting them (similar to Shiva's).

01-02-2010, 10:50 AM	#20
-3d Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 787	Re: [BUFF] Witch Doc's Death Ward The thing is I'm not sure it's codable, I mean dust exists in normal WC3 so it's probably hard coded, no idea how much work it would be to code a dust that doesn't interrupt channeling spells or if it's possible even but if it is it would be pretty cool imo.