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Old 06-30-2013, 03:52 PM   #1
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:56 PM   #2
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lol tree is nerfed. icefrog disband.
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:58 PM   #3
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* Gyrocopter attack range reduced from 375 to 365

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Old 06-30-2013, 03:58 PM   #4
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as of 6.78c
nerif = balanced
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:58 PM   #5
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Like I said in one of my posts yesterday, I don't understand why IceFrog doesn't give some explanation of why these tweaks are made... Like even one sentence isn't that hard
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:59 PM   #6
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lol, alchemist nerfed
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:01 PM   #7
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shit as usual
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:01 PM   #8
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:01 PM   #9
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look

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Old 06-30-2013, 04:02 PM   #10
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Default Re: Dota 6.78c released!

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Like I said in one of my posts yesterday, I don't understand why IceFrog doesn't give some explanation of why these tweaks are made... Like even one sentence isn't that hard
All of them make sense.

OT finally an all nerfs update; want more....he keeps missing Druid and PL.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:03 PM   #11
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Like I said in one of my posts yesterday, I don't understand why IceFrog doesn't give some explanation of why these tweaks are made... Like even one sentence isn't that hard
Look at the competitive scene.
If you don't get it, you most likely won't understand the explaination either.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:03 PM   #12
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Love the changes.Gyro needed a nerf,living armor was BS,wisp was bs,flamebreak was almost bs,rage was ULTRA bs

Alchemist didn't need it though
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:03 PM   #13
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Still nothing about Rubick.
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-Gyrocopter attack range reduced from
375 to 365

This is TO MUCH!
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:04 PM   #15
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treant is now so bad it's not even funny
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:07 PM   #16
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nice changes., thanks for updating us Wyk +like facebook
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:10 PM   #17
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Default Re: Dota 6.78c released!

Gyro is still viable. i m sad about alchemist and very sad about wisp, one of my favorite heroes (and i wasn't abusing his bug in dota 2 like some morons).
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:11 PM   #18
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Haha yes my wish came true
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:11 PM   #19
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Default Re: Dota 6.78c released!

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All of them make sense.

OT finally an all nerfs update; want more....he keeps missing Druid and PL.
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Look at the competitive scene.
If you don't get it, you most likely won't understand the explaination either.
Yes I do watch tourney's now and then, it doesn't mean I don't desire an explanation from the man himself. Find my post yesterday I made regarding balance changes made in SC2, and why Blizzard developers and community managers give them

There should be logical explanations why certain changes are made now and then in this competitve game, even though most of you think you understand them
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:12 PM   #20
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Oh my god, treant nerf. Thank you. I've let so many easy kills go because of that bullshit armor
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:13 PM   #21
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great, AM nerf 6.78d?

poor LD, Bruno and BTS folks are sick of Chinese AMs lol
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:13 PM   #22
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This is why we can't have nice things. Icefrog won't stop there, he'll nerf alchemist into the ground again before he ever actually, you know, fixes the hero's gaping flaws and makes him better conceptually instead of just playing around with statistical changes. I knew we couldn't have him show up in pro games too long before he'd take notice and bam, in comes the cyclical nerf end of the shallow balancing
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:13 PM   #23
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wow. I can simply only agree with everything. And I hope to see LS even less picked now - sorry I can't stand to see him picked anymore after the qualifier where he was picked/banned almost EVERY game
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:15 PM   #24
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Default Re: Dota 6.78c released!

Trivial nerfs all of them apart from Alchemist's which is the most unjustified one. Maybe Rage a bit but nothing major, not at all.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:20 PM   #25
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Niiice!
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:21 PM   #26
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Trivial nerfs all of them apart from Alchemist's which is the most unjustified one. Maybe Rage a bit but nothing major, not at all.
Exactly what I'm thinking. Then again, I should realize no explanations are ever given since he took over this game way back then

I also wish they reverted the SB charge to not greater bash
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:24 PM   #27
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Default Re: Dota 6.78c released!

Icefrog logic:

Tree normal hero = huge nerf
Tree useless shit nobody pick him = ok buff after few versions
Next week tree again normal hero = huge nerf!
Now tree again #useless shit nobody pick him #
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:25 PM   #28
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:32 PM   #29
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-,- geez its only 50 hp, 100 hp, and 150 hp from alchemist ult dunno what with all the doom glum all over the place.

All these nerfs are so minor its barely going to make any difference seriously.
2 second increase on rage? OH WELL
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:33 PM   #30
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-,- geez its only 50 hp from alchemist ult dunno what with all the doom glum all over the place.

its 50/100/150 less Hp

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Old 06-30-2013, 04:36 PM   #31
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Icefrog logic:

Tree normal hero = huge nerf
Tree useless shit nobody pick him = ok buff after few versions
Next week tree again normal hero = huge nerf!
Now tree again #useless shit nobody pick him #
ty frog.
I think it works like this

Icefrog logic:
These heroes are too strong for some reason or another!
Lets pick an ability at random and change some attribute of it at random to nerf it!
That will show them all!


who cares that alchemist is running around with a skill as conceptually flawed as goblins greed while having the lowest stats in the game propped up by ridiculous bonuses and a stun with effects that utterly dwarf every other comparable skill, we'll fix him by lopping 150 hp off the top!
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:36 PM   #32
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its 50/100/150 less Hp

get the facts right
Just noticed that opps.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:41 PM   #33
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Default Re: Dota 6.78c released!

What I don't understand is Alchemist gets to be nerfed while heroes like Warlock/SB are completely untouched.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:41 PM   #34
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Lifestealer nerf is lol.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:45 PM   #35
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Look at the competitive scene.
If you don't get it, you most likely won't understand the explaination either.
if everything was according to comp scene, we would see some Huskars, Razors and Medusas in it
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:46 PM   #36
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nerfing alchemist and tree? and i have to say that the rage nerf is random as hell. 17s is long for a non-ult spell.


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Like I said in one of my posts yesterday, I don't understand why IceFrog doesn't give some explanation of why these tweaks are made... Like even one sentence isn't that hard
wtf does it matter if he gives an explanation. the populace is going to disagree and cry about it either way
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:48 PM   #37
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I wonder why Icefrog hates Rooftrellen so much.

Rooftrellen is already beyond shit.
Wisp is nerfed to hell.
Wisp was very OK when he was first released.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:52 PM   #38
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I wonder why Icefrog hates Rooftrellen so much.

Rooftrellen is already beyond shit.
Wisp is nerfed to hell.
Wisp was very OK when he was first released.
I didn't know 3% MS off one of the most insanely powerful supports in the game qualifies as 'nerfed to hell'. And don't tell me Living Armor wasn't ridiculous at the laning phase, because it was, and will continue to be, just slightly less so. You people are exaggerating these minor tweaks, christ.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:07 PM   #39
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I didn't know 3% MS off one of the most insanely powerful supports in the game qualifies as 'nerfed to hell'. And don't tell me Living Armor wasn't ridiculous at the laning phase, because it was, and will continue to be, just slightly less so. You people are exaggerating these minor tweaks, christ.
Oh please. Wisp is very easy to pick out of the bunch now. We all know that since Wisp was released, he went from a scary hero to just a tp-here-with-someone-support. Heck I didn't even play him as a support ever but as a killer with just a centaur creep but because of too much nerfs I never played him at all.

Rooftrellen. His invi is useful. His leech seed, meh. His living armor, MEH. His ulti? PATHETIC. Rooftrellen hardly doesn't ever do anything mid to late game but just his disable. If only Leech Seed was AoE, more slow, LA is back to some other skill like Forest Sentinel and Overgrowth had damage.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:19 PM   #40
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I officially need to learn new heros. my old core is dead for the next months.
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