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Old 09-26-2013, 02:44 AM   #1
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Default Viability of bootless NW


In TI3 Loda used bootless NW. However, I don't think bootless NW is viable.

Let's see what makes a bootless NW:
1. Moving by spamming Shukuchi enables him to move at least equally fast than heroes with boots.
2. NW's being able to return to battlefield via ulti makes him good even without BoT.

However, there are problem lying with these. 1. Spamming Shukuchi needs mana, and even a lv25 NW with 10 points in attributes bonus does not have enough mana. For sustaining Mana, Loda kept Linken's in his slots, which is a useless item in late game. Boots for Linken's, what a fucking nice tradeoff. 2. By using ulti to return after buyback, unlike Spectre, NW loses his ulti. This ulti is sometimes a second life of NW. Loses a life for a life, what a fucking nice tradeoff.

Therefore, I don't think bootless NW is a viable strategy.
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:09 AM   #2
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If you are referring to the game vs Tongfu, he had Treads for most of the game. Then he went 6 slots by forgoing the Boots.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:53 AM   #3
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If you are six slotted, sure, by all means, go bootless.

For the majority of games its not worth tho. Boots offer you valueble assets (stats/mana/regen/damage/tp ) and are pretty cost effective.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:54 AM   #4
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I personally don't like it except for ultra-lategame when I'm otherwise out of slots. Treads and phase are both ridiculously cost efficient items.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:01 AM   #5
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If you are six slotted, sure, by all means, go bootless.

For the majority of games its not worth tho. Boots offer you valueble assets (stats/mana/regen/damage/tp ) and are pretty cost effective.
I am referring to the 6-slot case. I think NW should not go bootless even 6-slotted.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:39 AM   #6
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I am referring to the 6-slot case. I think NW should not go bootless even 6-slotted.
If your boots+5 high tier items cannot win you the game then why not go no boots and 6 high tier items?
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Old 09-26-2013, 02:01 PM   #7
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If your boots+5 high tier items cannot win you the game then why not go no boots and 6 high tier items?
Something like this.

I'd feel unsecure without a form of teleportation though. I suppose it depends on the enemy hero lineup.
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Old 09-26-2013, 02:22 PM   #8
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No one fucking calls him "NW", especially not in dota 2. Just call him Weaver please.
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:27 PM   #9
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No one fucking calls him "NW", especially not in dota 2. Just call him Weaver please.
How about Anubseran/Skitskurr?
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