[ITEM] Yasha & SANGE&YASHA Tweak!

nefe · 07-31-2009, 09:17 AM

Hello ,
I have a small suggestion for yasha .

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I Suggest :

Make the yasha buff affect Your own units by making it an aura that affects your units only - not creeps ..

Examples :Lone druid bear, Beastmaster boar , Lycan wolves , Meepo clones ,Visage Summons, chen units ..
The bonus MS and AS will apply to your units , so that the item wont create an ms difference between u and them .

Reasons :
-Helps some heroes buff their companions ( like meepo..)
-Solve move-speed difference between hero and its units . ( beast master..)
-Small Buff for yasha and therefore sange&yasha wich is kinda weak.
-make yasha(s&y) a viable choice for heroes that summon and have companions .
- Indirectly buff the currently weak meepo.

Thanks for Reading.
Waiting for your feedback.

NeFe ( leb)

Cp6uja · 07-31-2009, 11:36 AM

Overpowered? Those mentioned heroes are already powerfull at one way. I don't want to see 430MS Bear and Spirit Bear chasing me with Roots orb effect. Also, Lycan already has 522 unbreakable speed (gogo 522 chicken), and Visage has FLYING units. Increasing speed and attack speed of all those already unique units is an overkill. No from me.

Zack1996 · 07-31-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cp6uja_

Overpowered? Those mentioned heroes are already powerfull at one way. I don't want to see 430MS Bear and Spirit Bear chasing me with Roots orb effect. Also, Lycan already has 522 unbreakable speed (gogo 522 chicken), and Visage has FLYING units. Increasing speed and attack speed of all those already unique units is an overkill. No from me.

Says it all.
Also, you self-owned when you stated that Spirit Bear would benefit from the effect. Who gets SnY for Chen, anyway?

Cp6uja · 07-31-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zack1996

Says it all.
Also, you self-owned when you stated that Spirit Bear would benefit from the effect. Who gets SnY for Chen, anyway?

Summon Spirit Bear
Summons a powerful Spirit Bear companion. It randomly Entangles enemies that it attacks.

I was talking about Syllabear, I don't your self-owned post at all . . .

Zack1996 · 07-31-2009, 01:26 PM

I was talking about the OP self-owning.

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Example :Lone druid bear, Beastmaster boar , Lycan wolves ...,Visage Summons, chen units

nefe · 07-31-2009, 01:32 PM

Remember its a 10% ms 15% as not a huge buff , it only make the yasha item a choice for more heroes . A small tweak . If u hate the hero (skyla) dont hate my post

Redeemed A.I. · 07-31-2009, 11:30 PM

It is 15% IAS to cuirass..do you really think it should give so much IAS from half cost item?

LulzYeah · 08-01-2009, 02:11 AM

It does sounds unique. As others said, it is obviously overpowered. Bear already got a passive Very Fast movement speed + Boots and now Yasha?

I suggest that you halved the IMS+ on own units.'

Overall, it is still a bad item and I'm sure that after this remake, people will still get other orbs that suits better with heroes. Like Stygian Visage and Lycan, EoS Meepo.

Whitefang · 08-01-2009, 02:26 AM

I think just increase a little bit movement speed aura for s&y is ok though. Maybe like +6% ms to allies around holder.

Zack1996 · 08-01-2009, 03:09 AM

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10% ms 15% as

Necro gives a 9% ms aura at level 3. Assault gives a 15% as aura. Balanced much?
But if the aura is weaker than the actual bonus, I'd probably T-Up this.

wilfordjason · 08-01-2009, 07:55 AM

that really is the most win quote ever zack

nefe · 08-03-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zack1996

Necro gives a 9% ms aura at level 3. Assault gives a 15% as aura. Balanced much?
But if the aura is weaker than the actual bonus, I'd probably T-Up this.

Necro gives 9% auro to all units ( creeps , ally heroes..) , Read carefully :
My yasha suggestion give the aura to your units only (you and your summoned units ) thats why its balanced and not OP.

KenpachiSlardar · 08-03-2009, 04:22 PM

t -up sny is a useless item

Milli · 08-04-2009, 12:23 AM

I like Yasha & Sange & Yasha, the aura only to own units is fully unique and gives summoners a good new choice. But isn't this the wrong forum for item suggestions?

AXN · 08-04-2009, 01:29 AM

I think the buff for your summoned units should be given by Assault Cuirass or skills levelled by different heroes (Lycanthrope's Feral Instincts).

I'm sorry but I don't agree with the tweak.

MissWendy · 08-04-2009, 02:00 AM

I think it would also be cool to give the Maim buff to allies, really cool between Vlads and AC.

nefe · 08-04-2009, 12:07 PM

what about give ally(summons and your units ) Half the ms/as

07-31-2009, 11:36 AM	#2
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07-31-2009, 01:32 PM	#6
nefe Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 99	Re: [ITEM] Yasha & SANGE&YASHA Tweak! Remember its a 10% ms 15% as not a huge buff , it only make the yasha item a choice for more heroes . A small tweak . If u hate the hero (skyla) dont hate my post

07-31-2009, 11:30 PM	#7
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08-01-2009, 02:11 AM	#8
LulzYeah Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Meh.. Posts: 2,537 Blog Entries: 7	Re: [ITEM] Yasha & SANGE&YASHA Tweak! It does sounds unique. As others said, it is obviously overpowered. Bear already got a passive Very Fast movement speed + Boots and now Yasha? I suggest that you halved the IMS+ on own units.' Overall, it is still a bad item and I'm sure that after this remake, people will still get other orbs that suits better with heroes. Like Stygian Visage and Lycan, EoS Meepo.

08-01-2009, 02:26 AM	#9
Whitefang Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Malaysia Posts: 1,630	Re: [ITEM] Yasha & SANGE&YASHA Tweak! I think just increase a little bit movement speed aura for s&y is ok though. Maybe like +6% ms to allies around holder. __________________ All Hero Balance Compilation

08-01-2009, 07:55 AM	#11
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08-04-2009, 12:23 AM	#14
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08-04-2009, 02:00 AM	#16
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08-04-2009, 12:07 PM	#17
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