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Old 12-29-2009, 04:52 AM   #1
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Default [COSMETIC] Lone Druid's Cosmetic Remake


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LONE DRUID COSMETIC REMAKE SUGGESTION
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Greetings Dota Community!

I've been playing Lone Druid for a while and I got bored by the lack of animations the current model has. I know many will give violent reactions but still this is the cosmetics forums... most of the suggestions here are purely based on perspective and also as most forum readers would say "non essential".

Still it doesn't hurt to try. So I propose the following changes:
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SUMMON SPIRIT BEAR

I propose a change in the model and the name.

Specs:

1.) Change name to "Summon Ancient of the Wild"
2.) Use hot-key "T" since it is nearer the C,F,R hot-keys used by the hero.
3.) Make Lone Druid use "spell" animation when summoning Ancient of the Wild:



4.) Model looks like this:



5.) Model is scaled as 0.70 in all 4 levels.
6.) Model looks like this below when scaled with the current Lone Druid model:

Lone Druid mode


Bear mode


PROS:
+ New model has 2 attack animations (old model only has one... too boring)
+ New model fits "Entangle" skill of old summon

CONS:
- Change one word, "bear", in the background story
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RABID

Specs:

1.) Please retain normal sizes of Lone Druid and summoned unit under the effects of "Rabid" (it looks annoying two units covering up the whole screen in the heat of the battle).
2.) Retain the red glowing orb in the hands

PROS:
+ Does not eat up too much space in the game screen in the heat of a 5v5 battle

CONS:
- Many people might use that confusion in the game screen
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TRUE FORM

Specs:

1.) Please retain Lone Druid's scaling size (current Lone Druid size) even when he turns into a Bear. Please correct me if I'm wrong, there is a small growth in the hero's scale when he turns into a bear. The True Form is already large (bear size) no need to scale it up more.

PROS:
+ None actually... its a VERY SMALL upscale

CONS:
- None
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ATTACK ANIMATION

Specs:

1.) Use "Keeper of the Grove" attack missile animation
2.) Use an arc of 0.15



PROS:
+ More nature oriented
+ Lone Druid uses the power of nature
+ Druids don't use axes since they are used for chopping down trees (lore-wise)

CONS:
- People might liked old animation
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TESTMAP

Please try the testmap since the screenshots really doesn't give the animation justice.

There is no msi here or any changes in the mechanics. This suggestion is purely cosmetic... though of course it does have a change in the background story (change summons bear to summons Ancient).

Let me know your feedback and comments DOTA community! Thanks! I know there will be many violent reaction towards these cosmetic changes but it doesn't hurt to try what I have in mind.
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Old 12-29-2009, 04:59 AM   #2
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Default Re: [COSMETIC] Lone Druid's Cosmetic Remake

you forgot to change the summon icon.

TBH, i think it looks weird when he is in bear form fighting with his tree summon. but i like the projectile. also, the 2nd, and 3rd icons would look wierd because it also improve his summon but its a tree now while the icon show a bear theme.
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Old 12-29-2009, 05:03 AM   #3
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you forgot to change the summon icon.

TBH, i think it looks weird when he is in bear form fighting with his tree summon. but i like the projectile. also, the 2nd, and 3rd icons would look wierd because it also improve his summon but its a tree while the icon show a bear theme.
Well to be honest its more of using the "natural" or "wild" skills of the Druid class that's why the icons are well that of the bear's.

Also the Lone Druid himself is the bear not the summoning he uses. It just incorporated in us since that's what we are used to


... and that's why I know most people would hate this oh noooo!!! hehehe!

Thanks so much for the feedback lilaznelementz!
 
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Old 12-29-2009, 07:05 AM   #4
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Sorry, I must say No to this cosmetic remake of you, AXN ^^

1st: two bears are much better, AotW is weird to be his summons TBH, a bear and a structure, nah nah ^^

2nd: your att projectile is so much of magic/nature which doesn't fit his bearish/brave/brutal nature.. Moreover, this resembles Leshrac's att projectile, if I'm not wrong, it's exactly his..

3rd: your thought of the so-called nature on Lone Druid is misleading when you apply the kind of nature of KotG on him.. Lone Druid is another kind of nature, it's the power of the bear whom everyone loves his greatness
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:20 AM   #5
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i wonder why you suggested this?
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Old 12-29-2009, 09:34 AM   #6
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Hi DOTA Community... well I was really bored on how "repetitive" the animations are with two BIG bears covering up the screen that's why I proposed to:

1.) Change the summon
2.) Take off the sizing up of the models
3.) Change the projectile

I know #1 is not really necessary but maybe changing the model would add a bit of flavor and variation to the hero.

I'm more focused on #2 and 3 changes though
 
Old 12-29-2009, 09:55 AM   #7
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Honestly? Current is fine. T-D
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Honestly? Current is fine. T-D
only the attack missile is weird because Syllabear doesn't have an axe carrying and he is a druid class and it was overused by Rexxar's wild axe.

Ontopic:

1:it was overused by Ancient of War..
2:I don't if I know Rabid represents bloodlust.Null.
3:it was overused by Leshrac's attack missle..
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Honestly i kinda like this because now the bear will be free for Rexxar, where it truly belongs Too bad that's not gonna happen because that shitty druid is probably gonna remain the way he is.
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:35 PM   #10
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Crazy idea, I don't like it. Is this a joke btw?

t-d
 
Old 12-29-2009, 12:56 PM   #11
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Crazy idea, I don't like it. Is this a joke btw?

t-d
Crazy, why? I just got the lore out of Broll Bearmantle (Shapeshifting druid in Warcraft).

Joke... no I'm quite serious about it. This is one of those suggestions that one player in DOTA suggests but most people won't agree.

@Swift Edge

Wow someone with the same perspective as mine. Thanks for the comment here!

Again I know this would really put a negative impression in the community but I believe there's nothing wrong with just trying to suggest and see what will happen.

Thanks DOTA Community!
 
Old 12-29-2009, 12:59 PM   #12
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Syllabear supposed he will summon a bear. T-down.
And I'll know your next answer change the name. Syllatree.
 
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T-down (srsly wtf)
 
Old 12-29-2009, 01:22 PM   #14
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Syllabear supposed he will summon a bear. T-down.
And I'll know your next answer change the name. Syllatree.
Syllabear was derived from "Syl-la-ble" from clan TDA who helped in the development of the game (source: DOTA from WOW wiki) not because he summons the bear but because he changes into a bear. Though I think the developer wants to emphasize on the BEAR title that's why he can summon and also become one too.

If I was given the option I'd change his name to Broll Bearmantle (source: WOW wiki) and yes change his story too... but of course what will happen to Syl-la-ble's name in the game right? (name in the game... hmm that rhymes).

Thanks for your comment The Zero!

By the way does anyone ever agree about the super sizing of the models when using Rabid to be removed?
 
Old 12-29-2009, 03:31 PM   #15
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I usually like your suggestions, especially your overhauls, but this one gives me a lack of 'completeness'.
I really hate bear theme, model and attack projectile of the current Lone Druid, especially because he looks like a strength hero and axes just don't fit, like you already stated. But it just has completely NO more theme, no complete Bear theme, but no complete Nature theme, thats kinda bad.
The missile fits better to Furion, not because it's his ladder, but because he currently hurls Green Burning Rocks onto hie enemies. The aspect that Sylla is ranged actually doesn't even fit, his model is totally meele-orientated.
Synergy currently makes much sense, because it actually improve the Bear and the Bear form, but it just sounds strange to me to improve his Bear Form and a Tree, but leaving his normal form untouched.
I agree with all your sizing stuff, it is true that those big models are bad.
The tree model is bad. You really chose the worst of all ingame tree models. Ancient of Wind would fit much better, it looks more aggressive and stronger. But like I already said, I really don't like the idea of summoning a tree.

Sorry, man, but this time you don't get me.
 
Old 12-30-2009, 02:32 AM   #16
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actually i wanted uprooted models to be heroes, but i'm not liking it now.
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actually i wanted uprooted models to be heroes, but i'm not liking it now.
One is enough, and that's actually the best. The others have weird attack & move animations.
 
Old 12-30-2009, 02:38 AM   #18
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I'm gonna have to say T-Down.

Bears fit nature enough.
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One is enough, and that's actually the best. The others have weird attack & move animations.
The ancient of wonders looks l33t when in uprooted form and looks l33ter in rooted form and attacking(seen in rabbits vs sheep)
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The ancient of wonders looks l33t when in uprooted form and looks l33ter in rooted form and attacking(seen in rabbits vs sheep)
Think of any good spells for these "heroes" (I call them rubbish models). There are none which we already had, nature theme is enough.. but lets get back ontopic..
 
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