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Elunes Grace (Orb Effect) - Gives a 25 percent chance when attacking to shoot out a Healing Beam at nearby allies that bounces 2/3/4 times, healing them for 80/100/120 hit points(Does not get weaker with bounces. Only procs if there are allies in 600 aoe. Can only bounce on one ally once per proc. One second cd.)
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) And, he already has a slow, life steal is pretty useless, and negative armor shouldn't beat out the pretty pwn auras.
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Nice item overall. I like the concept. Numbers may be a bit questionable, but that can easily be fixed.
Definitely a t-up on my end. Question though, do you heal yourself as well?
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First thought, as you said this item will be more fit on INT heroes (only meepo is exception). So I think you can make it to every time you cast spell instead of every time when you attack. Also by that way, you'll remove the orb effect part... Also I don't think glove for int heroes are fit either... I suggest you to change the glove to something else or just simply increase the recipe (600 gold to increase the level is too less in my opinion)
How about it?
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@ chad
You do not heal yourself if you are alone, or if you have more then 2 other units with you. However, if there is only 1 or 2 units near you, it will bounce to them, and then bounce back to you and heal you. It has great synergy with necromonicon. @nothing I think, there is two things wrong with making it activate on spell casting. 1) someone like Necro, or Dazzle, would be extremely overpowered with this item if such a thing were to happen. Nearly doubling their heals. 2) others heroes like Furion, Meepo and LoA can make GREAT use out of this item right now, but wouldn't have the spells/mana to continuously spam for heals with your version. Also, I want the item to have a very easy build-up, and have the user be able to get the item along with other easy to get items such as mek at the same time, which is why it is so cheap. Also, most of the heroes using it will need the as to make any use out of the ability. And meepo and the such can use it just to use it.
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I would have to disagree with NotHinG as well. This item gives a VERY viable orb for support heroes other than skadi which by the way, isn't viable at all because of its impractical cost.
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I like this item a lot, although I am wary of the numbers I'd like to see it played with before I can say anything more though. Also, one question, do the auras stack with other auras? (Mek, Acuirass, CM's Brilliance, etc)
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The first problem with this skill is the orb effect. It means heroes using this need to attack. And since your target set of heroes use spells to deal damage more than normal attacks, this looks quite useless on your target group of heroes.
Although I could see Furion or Visage using this. Maybe. Even then some players might still rush Deso on them. Null for now, until the justifications get back.
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@ banana
It stacks with mek, headress, and cm's brillance aura. Other then that the auras do not stack. @ sheep Actually, that really is my whole justification. The support heroes attack between cd's, and their attacks are very much useless. This item allows them to further support their allies with heals while attacking, and it comes with the best auras in the game, so they can support just by being there. This is the reason why this item has quite a bit of ias. These heroes who usually attack very slowly, will now be attacking much faster, which means healing a lot more.
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I hate the recepie! Omfg that sucks, really. I dont want ring of bally in recipe, because its mroe a early game item, same as vangaurd.
Head is ok, icon-concept is good too, but supporters dont need AS do they? And why not make the heal bounce 3 times, starting from you? (you, then 3 other). This would make a semi-lifesteal effect. And the numbers, recepie is shit!! Too cheap, make it better and buff the orb effect.
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Chen+HoD=+1 creep
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I like the Idea of healing while attacking.
But I think you might change it to giving a chance to add a charge to it so you could implement a manacost, which is needed IMO. Anyways, T-up
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To think about intelligent heroes still don't have viable orb effect until now, yes I think this item would be a good choice for them. I think replacing gloves with oblivion staff would be a better choice. Don't you think?
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Hmm, I thought I had commented on this forever ago and it just got swallowed. I guess I forgot to comment, so commence the swallowing
.@ APL I'm not sure what or where from, but I'm sure Amulet Of Elunes Grace means something or is from something. And I like it. ![]() @ Sheep I'm bad at math craft concerning attack speed, and armor. @ Drikam Well that's good, cause the heroes that would get this would get it early. Supporters need as with this orb effect. It is supposed to be cheap. And the mini lifesteal effect was deemed imbalanced at the DA forums, and I happen to agree with that finding. @ cedeo Why? If you don't mind my asking. @ Whitefang Oblivion staff is kinda expensive, and since the item already has 4 effects, that would mean the mana, mana regen, and damage would have to be left out from it. Pretty much wasting 1375 gold.
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I'm not sure of this, but I don't think that making an item for supporters that use something that they don't have any benefit of (AS) is good. I'd feel that it would be if supporters generally got something useful out of AS, but they don't. Thus, building this item would seem like a waste to myself.
For this reason, I would personally go for an orb effect with a cooldown instead. That way, they wouldn't need the AS to take use of this item. Correct me if my thinking is wrong (I think it is, but my hunch tells me that this thinking is correct).
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I think your thinking is slightly off. Not completely wrong, just a little off target. Most Int supporters go for Deso or Skadi, mainly because the orb effects are instant proc.
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I like this item and i really hope it gets implented.
hmm but i'd like see Melastorm in recipe maybe headress + mealstorm + recipe non upgradable and a lil bit higher hea, only reg aura (there are already 2 armor auras) and + dmg / maybe a command aura with slight +dmg? - why? because mealstorm doesnt have another upgade beside mijonir yet and it would fit to the orb effect, and also givin some AS |
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@ Lill
Well, supporters don't usually benefit from increased attack speed, however with this item they would. Making it not be a waste, in fact saving them the trouble of having to buy more attack speed. Although what you propose is a tempting idea. However, I don't know if it might make the item a bit too much. Right now it is catering almost exclusively to support heroes who don't have an orb effect, with a cd system it would make it possible to have other orb effects that proc while this one is on cd. potentially allowing for 5 of these on a team to become a viable method. Though this item does cater to a special selection of heroes who aren't support, mainly meepo, but chen, and warlock among others could also make at least some use of the attack speed as just attack speed. Although seeing as how its really just speculation atm, the final product having a chain heal proc on attack somehow is what I'm most concerned with. Both methods have their pros and cons. I suppose when it came down to it judgment from of above would be the deciding factor. (IceFrog) @ Tribun Yes, but neither armor aura is as strong as this one, and the brillance aura is on par with cm's. Not to mention that maelstrom and Amulet are on two opposite ends of the spectrum as far as what they do is concerned. Having one upgrade into the other would just feel forced, especially for the sake of a bouncing animation.
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Unique. Very unique.
Healing orb effect? Never though I'd see the day. Good that i see RoB in the line-up of requirements. I suggest changing Gloves of haste, maybe Quarterstaff would do better. This is the item for ultimate supporters; Dazzle, Abaddon, Chen, etc. T-up for concept. |
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