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Old 08-02-2009, 01:16 AM   #1
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Default [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace


Amulet of Elunes Grace


Headdress of Rejuvenation(603 Gold)

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Ring of Basilius (500 Gold)

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Gloves of Haste (500 Gold)

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Amulet of Elunes Grace Recipe (450 Gold)

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Amulet of Elunes Grace level 1(2053 Gold)


Amulet of Elunes Grace level 1: +3 to all stats, +3 hp per second aura, +1 mana per second aura, +4 armor aura, +20 ias, and Elunes Grace level 1(orb effect)
(Recipe grants +1 hp per second, + .45 mana per second, + 1 armor, + 5 ias, Elunes Grace level 1)
(Recipe takes away +6 damage)

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Amulet of Elunes Grace Recipe (450 Gold)

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Amulet of Elunes Grace level 2(2503 Gold)


Amulet of Elunes Grace level 2: +4 to all stats, +4 hp per second aura, +1.5 mana per second aura, +5 armor aura, +30 ias, and Elunes Grace level 2(orb effect)
(Recipe grants +1 hp per second, + .5 mana per second, + 1 armor, + 10 ias, Elunes Grace level 2)
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Amulet of Elunes Grace Recipe (450 Gold)

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Amulet of Elunes Grace level 3(2953 Gold)


Amulet of Elunes Grace level 3: +5 to all stats, +5 hp per second aura, +2 mana per second aura, +6 armor aura, +40 ias, and Elunes Grace level 3(orb effect)
(Recipe grants +1 hp per second, + .5 mana per second, + 1 armor, + 10 ias, Elunes Grace level 3)

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Elunes Grace
(Orb Effect) - Gives a 25 percent chance when attacking to shoot out a Healing Beam at nearby allies that bounces 2/3/4 times, healing them for 80/100/120 hit points(Does not get weaker with bounces. Only procs if there are allies in 600 aoe. Can only bounce on one ally once per proc. One second cd.)
What are some reasons as to why this item should be implemented?
  • It's a new orb effect, that will help support allies, with the highest armor, and regen aura in game
  • There isn't an orb effect for casting/summoning heroes to make good use of as of now
  • Only mek has a heal, this allow more versatile healers in the game
  • Allows summons to tank towers
  • A int upgrade for RoB
Who will use this item?
Mostly spell casters. Not the battle mages,(maybe some battle mages) but the main casters. Lion, CM, ect, ect. Heroes that don't usually effect much with their attacks, can now get good use out of attacking between cd's. Supporters will also be using the item a lot.

In what shop would this item be sold in?
Supportive Vestaments

Imba much? 480 heal every 4 attacks.
It heals well, I admit, but it is similar to maelstrom in many ways; however, it has several flaws over it.
1. You can't choose at all who you heal.
2. It can't be upgraded past level three. (for about as much as maelstrom)
3. It takes up an orb effect. (which most heroes can't afford)
4. The auras won't stack, so more then one on a team is somewhat a waste.

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Gloves of haste are there because most casters, happen to not attack very fast. If there are going to have an orb effect, the item that comes with it may as well help the orb effect in some way.

Some Hero Synergies:
- There isn't anything someone playing ezalor wouldn't do to be useful. This items aids in pushing, damage(ias), and support. Three things that ezalor can use.
- His imba heals are already imba, this is just icing. Not to mention the auras help with even more heals, and better spamming.
- His summons can use the heals a lot.(2 mana per second ) And, he already has a slow, life steal is pretty useless, and negative armor shouldn't beat out the pretty pwn auras.
- Its been said that aiming for the lead meepo is stupid, so aim for the clones. Well, now the lead meepo can make his clones that much tougher to kill, by healing them, and giving them good armor at the same time. (for relatively cheap.)
- Of course, it prolly won't beat out his semi-carry builds of now, but this would make dazzle the ultimate support hero. Constantly healing all of your allies, not many can even come close to that.

Some Heroes NOT to get this Item On
- This is a perfect example who benifits nothing from having this item, she is even hurt by it, with no lifesteal.
- Heroes that almost never attack during a team fight, would make this orb relatively useless, which is why they don't usually get orbs in the first place.

Item Synergies:
- Stacking heals would be good for a healing hero. (obvious)
- Alive summons are better then dead ones.

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Old 08-02-2009, 04:07 AM   #2
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

Nice item overall. I like the concept. Numbers may be a bit questionable, but that can easily be fixed.

Definitely a t-up on my end.

Question though, do you heal yourself as well?
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:13 AM   #3
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

First thought, as you said this item will be more fit on INT heroes (only meepo is exception). So I think you can make it to every time you cast spell instead of every time when you attack. Also by that way, you'll remove the orb effect part... Also I don't think glove for int heroes are fit either... I suggest you to change the glove to something else or just simply increase the recipe (600 gold to increase the level is too less in my opinion)

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Old 08-02-2009, 04:21 AM   #4
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

@ chad

You do not heal yourself if you are alone, or if you have more then 2 other units with you. However, if there is only 1 or 2 units near you, it will bounce to them, and then bounce back to you and heal you. It has great synergy with necromonicon.

@nothing

I think, there is two things wrong with making it activate on spell casting.

1) someone like Necro, or Dazzle, would be extremely overpowered with this item if such a thing were to happen. Nearly doubling their heals.

2) others heroes like Furion, Meepo and LoA can make GREAT use out of this item right now, but wouldn't have the spells/mana to continuously spam for heals with your version.

Also, I want the item to have a very easy build-up, and have the user be able to get the item along with other easy to get items such as mek at the same time, which is why it is so cheap. Also, most of the heroes using it will need the as to make any use out of the ability. And meepo and the such can use it just to use it.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:28 AM   #5
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

I would have to disagree with NotHinG as well. This item gives a VERY viable orb for support heroes other than skadi which by the way, isn't viable at all because of its impractical cost.
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:39 AM   #6
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

I like this item a lot, although I am wary of the numbers I'd like to see it played with before I can say anything more though. Also, one question, do the auras stack with other auras? (Mek, Acuirass, CM's Brilliance, etc)
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:50 AM   #7
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

The first problem with this skill is the orb effect. It means heroes using this need to attack. And since your target set of heroes use spells to deal damage more than normal attacks, this looks quite useless on your target group of heroes.

Although I could see Furion or Visage using this. Maybe. Even then some players might still rush Deso on them.


Null for now, until the justifications get back.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:58 AM   #8
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

@ banana

It stacks with mek, headress, and cm's brillance aura. Other then that the auras do not stack.

@ sheep

Actually, that really is my whole justification.

The support heroes attack between cd's, and their attacks are very much useless. This item allows them to further support their allies with heals while attacking, and it comes with the best auras in the game, so they can support just by being there.

This is the reason why this item has quite a bit of ias. These heroes who usually attack very slowly, will now be attacking much faster, which means healing a lot more.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:02 AM   #9
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

I think the name doesn't suit. Amulet of Elune's Grace <<< Amulet of Elune

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Old 08-02-2009, 07:22 AM   #10
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

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@ sheep

Actually, that really is my whole justification.

The support heroes attack between cd's, and their attacks are very much useless. This item allows them to further support their allies with heals while attacking, and it comes with the best auras in the game, so they can support just by being there.

This is the reason why this item has quite a bit of ias. These heroes who usually attack very slowly, will now be attacking much faster, which means healing a lot more.
The support auras are good. The thing that rankles me is the orb. Most of the target heroes don't really have good AS, even with this item. How many extra attacks could you realistically get it? Needs some serious mathcrafting to convince me that it's worthwhile getting. Still null for now, sorry.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:55 AM   #11
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I hate the recepie! Omfg that sucks, really. I dont want ring of bally in recipe, because its mroe a early game item, same as vangaurd.

Head is ok, icon-concept is good too, but supporters dont need AS do they?

And why not make the heal bounce 3 times, starting from you? (you, then 3 other). This would make a semi-lifesteal effect.

And the numbers, recepie is shit!! Too cheap, make it better and buff the orb effect.
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:13 AM   #12
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:29 AM   #13
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I like the Idea of healing while attacking.
But I think you might change it to giving a chance to add a charge to it so you could implement a manacost, which is needed IMO.

Anyways, T-up
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:55 AM   #14
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

To think about intelligent heroes still don't have viable orb effect until now, yes I think this item would be a good choice for them. I think replacing gloves with oblivion staff would be a better choice. Don't you think?
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:01 PM   #15
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

Hmm, I thought I had commented on this forever ago and it just got swallowed. I guess I forgot to comment, so commence the swallowing .

@ APL

I'm not sure what or where from, but I'm sure Amulet Of Elunes Grace means something or is from something. And I like it.

@ Sheep

I'm bad at math craft concerning attack speed, and armor.

@ Drikam

Well that's good, cause the heroes that would get this would get it early. Supporters need as with this orb effect. It is supposed to be cheap. And the mini lifesteal effect was deemed imbalanced at the DA forums, and I happen to agree with that finding.

@ cedeo

Why? If you don't mind my asking.

@ Whitefang

Oblivion staff is kinda expensive, and since the item already has 4 effects, that would mean the mana, mana regen, and damage would have to be left out from it. Pretty much wasting 1375 gold.
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I'm not sure of this, but I don't think that making an item for supporters that use something that they don't have any benefit of (AS) is good. I'd feel that it would be if supporters generally got something useful out of AS, but they don't. Thus, building this item would seem like a waste to myself.

For this reason, I would personally go for an orb effect with a cooldown instead. That way, they wouldn't need the AS to take use of this item.

Correct me if my thinking is wrong (I think it is, but my hunch tells me that this thinking is correct).
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For this reason, I would personally go for an orb effect with a cooldown instead. That way, they wouldn't need the AS to take use of this item.

Correct me if my thinking is wrong (I think it is, but my hunch tells me that this thinking is correct).
I think your thinking is slightly off. Not completely wrong, just a little off target. Most Int supporters go for Deso or Skadi, mainly because the orb effects are instant proc.
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I like this item and i really hope it gets implented.

hmm but i'd like see Melastorm in recipe

maybe headress + mealstorm + recipe

non upgradable and a lil bit higher hea, only reg aura (there are already 2 armor auras) and + dmg / maybe a command aura with slight +dmg?

- why? because mealstorm doesnt have another upgade beside mijonir yet and it would fit to the orb effect, and also givin some AS
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:53 PM   #19
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

@ Lill

Well, supporters don't usually benefit from increased attack speed, however with this item they would. Making it not be a waste, in fact saving them the trouble of having to buy more attack speed.

Although what you propose is a tempting idea. However, I don't know if it might make the item a bit too much. Right now it is catering almost exclusively to support heroes who don't have an orb effect, with a cd system it would make it possible to have other orb effects that proc while this one is on cd. potentially allowing for 5 of these on a team to become a viable method.

Though this item does cater to a special selection of heroes who aren't support, mainly meepo, but chen, and warlock among others could also make at least some use of the attack speed as just attack speed.

Although seeing as how its really just speculation atm, the final product having a chain heal proc on attack somehow is what I'm most concerned with. Both methods have their pros and cons. I suppose when it came down to it judgment from of above would be the deciding factor. (IceFrog)

@ Tribun

Yes, but neither armor aura is as strong as this one, and the brillance aura is on par with cm's.

Not to mention that maelstrom and Amulet are on two opposite ends of the spectrum as far as what they do is concerned. Having one upgrade into the other would just feel forced, especially for the sake of a bouncing animation.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:11 PM   #20
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Default Re: [Item] Amulet of Elunes Grace

Unique. Very unique.

Healing orb effect? Never though I'd see the day. Good that i see RoB in the line-up of requirements. I suggest changing Gloves of haste, maybe Quarterstaff would do better.

This is the item for ultimate supporters; Dazzle, Abaddon, Chen, etc.

T-up for concept.
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