[Remake] Magina - The Antimage

[Sgt Failure]

We all know that Magina is only good for 2 things:
Beeing fed in pubs
Beeing the guy with possible fastest attackspeed in game (Because of his ridicilous Base IAS)

So, my suggestion is to change his spells, just a little, to still fit his theme, aswell as making him more initiator, and gicing his skills equal chance to be picked wherever in the game. So, here is the new proposed AM (Numbers can be changed):

Anti Mage
Magina

Background Story: Twin sons to the great Prophet, Terrorblade and Magina were blessed with divine powers: Terrorblade granted with an unnatural affinity with life forces; Magina gifted with energy manipulation. Magina's eventual overexposure to the magics is gradually augmenting his elemental resistances and has bestowed him the unique ability to move faster than light itself. Now, broken by Terrorblade's fall to the dark side, Magina answers the Sentinel's call in a desperate bid to redeem his brother. Every bitter strike turns the Scourge's evil essences upon themselves, culminating in a finale that forces his enemy to awaken to the void within and spontaneously implode.

Notes:

• Change Bestowed -> Bestowing and Augmented -> Augmenting

Strength - 18 + 1.2
Agility - 22 + 2.8
Intelligence - 18 + 1.8

Notes:

• Increased base INT to fit his new skillset
• Reduced Base Strength because of new magic shield

Spell Shield - (Pseudo Passive, Psuedo Active, AoE-Buff, Self-Buff)


Notes:

• Now it scales entire game, and give Magina a bit more of support role.
• Mana is calculated to nearest 5 points upon activation, for easier coding.
• Damage absrobation does NOT stack with other similar effects (Pipe)
• Units being immune to Pipe, is NOT immune to this
• Affects all living allied units in AoE, even magic immune and avatar'd
• Whenever mana is lost, in any way, 100% of that mana is saved in a variable to this spell.
• Counts only mana lost by Enemies insisde AoE
• Any way, nether ward, manaburn, casting spells, drain mana works
• IAS and Magic Resist buff is also given to illusions

Blink - (Active, Ground Target)


Notes:

• Have a 0.33 seconds delay
• If targeted outside max range, only blink 4/5 of distance
• NO CHANGES

Mana Break - (Passive, Orb Effect)


Notes:

• Same old Mana Burn, with a new effect added
• Duration restarts whenever attacking
• The extra mana burn is added, for extra effect
• Have no cap, will show a buff once ready
• If it will "Mana-Crit" on next attack, and an illusion is created, it will also have it for its first attack but reduce to 4%, not removing it from Magina

Mana Void - (Active, Single-Target AoE)


Notes:

• Added an after effect, but only on main target, making it a lot effectiver in 1v1 situation
• Will have an AoE indicator such as stormbolt
• Purgeable
• The after damage is individual for each mana point lost, counting only it from that instance
• Scepter upgradeable:
  Increases duration of After buff to 6 seconds, and making i deal damage in AoE. Increases main multiplier by 0.15

[Killmachine]

Waow! Awesome! T-Up for this brilliant suggestion!

[-Intricate(]

God,nice idea,would like to see it implemented soon....

[Necro]

Amazing, I just love the Spell Shield and Mana Break suggestions. I don't think the change to Blink is needed, it would make the suggestion overpowering as a whole.

[Raxen 07]

His str gain must 1.2 so don't make it to 1.6
magina is fine he doesn't need any remake

[Sgt Failure]

Originally Posted by Killmachine

Waow! Awesome! T-Up for this brilliant suggestion!

Thank you

Originally Posted by -Intricate(

God,nice idea,would like to see it implemented soon....

Haha, i don't think is such big of a possibility, but thanks.

Originally Posted by Necro

Amazing, I just love the Spell Shield and Mana Break suggestions. I don't think the change to Blink is needed, it would make the suggestion overpowering as a whole.

I'll think about it, thanks alot for support

Originally Posted by Raxen 07

His str gain must 1.2 so don't make it to 1.6
magina is fine he doesn't need any remake

And why must his strength gain be 1.2? I guess you play him alot of APEM games... Well, i'm not alone thinking that magina needs a buff.

[drunken_paladin]

This remake is actually pretty sweet. Magina actually helps his team out whilst still being able to carry himself and ya know, being a real anti-mage and stuff. T-up

[Quiesce]

The numbers seem awfully high.
I mean, 196 mana? That's !!
Maybe if it was just double the mana burn. I'd think it would be nice.

Anyway, this is a clean remake. I like it, except for blink. It just seems too op.

T-Up

[xy4kuz4x]

The number kinda lame and need buff/nerf.

[JeanLucPicard]

Mana break
In one word: IMBA...
This destroys agi/str heroes manapool in 2 swift strikes...
He's an antimage, so if tweaked this skill should be tweaked to do more damage to int heroes than agi/str which in this form it does not.

Blink
One of (if not THE) most powerful basic skill in DotA doesn't need a buff imo...
Also we already have a blind man with illusions (TB).

Spell Shield
Nice concept, but numbers need a nerf imo...
@lvl4 it can be used as a passive 40% spell shield and 100% IAS if you don't use the active component (if i understand it correctly = do the math and tell me where I'm wrong).

Mana Void
Just don't know...
It makes the skill a silence/nuke from nuke.

Also since break/void buffs in 6.55 Magina is sometimes (almost often) used, and this is a buff to all 4 skills, and his str gain...

[Crumb_Catcher]

So wait. I Mana Void a hero with 400/800 mana, mana void deals 400 unreduced damage. Then i hit him ONCE, he looses mana under debuff, another 200-250 unreduced damage is dealt. Then I hit him again during the debuff, ANOTHER 200-300 damage is dealt, since ulti says WHENEVER opponent looses mana.

So every 2 hits within 5 seconds buff duration would deal full Mana Void damage to that single hero? Need HEAVY tweaking.

But the concept is very nice, T-UP anyway.

[Archmage]

τ-up Spell Shield mana break Mana Void
T-down Blink coz is too imba set illision's damage 50% or get more than 300% damage coz 100% dm and 100% take is imba

[SuperSheep]

Good but i dislike the spell shield idea. Keep working on it.

[Sgt Failure]

Changed numbers, made some (I think) heavy nerfing on most spells. Thanks for all feedback

[k-xiii]

the mana void suggestion is not a very good 1..
bcoz mana void is a exploding nuke...
when mana void is released it explode to surrounding area..
and u wan to make AM can only kill one hero using AM ulti..

[JohnnyBalboa]

I can't believe i didn't post on this suggestion yet oO

Great approach to magina's problems...

Perfect buff to mana break... but i think you nerfed too much your previous suggestion... this "critical" only happens once per battle... 3x mana burn is too much (early game)... ok i agree... but 8% max mana reflects that in a 800 mana pool you are just burning more 64 mana... I believe that you could increase this percentage up to a 20% max mana ( lower than NA mana burn ).

Blink doens't need a change... not this one...

About Spell shield... amazing.. just amazing
you could add some kind of trigger to react when magina's life is under some point to release the shield ( like aba ult ). The numbers here are great


Mana void...the aditional damage is not in aoe right? With the mana break buff.. this chance is a bit too much...

And about the general remake: Does spell shield store mana from death ward negative regen? Does it stack with pipe? You could add a tip on spell shield to give information about how much mana is stored ( like doom )

Nice idea overall

[snhades]

mana break is the same i saw in Heroes of Newerth i think (check Magebane), but still good

[radianceJR]

i agreed with the others accept the blink.Cause the blink does not really need to be tweaked

[Fate Trap]

Originally Posted by Necro

Amazing, I just love the Spell Shield and Mana Break suggestions. I don't think the change to Blink is needed, it would make the suggestion overpowering as a whole.

this...

[Sgt Failure]

Originally Posted by k-xiii

the mana void suggestion is not a very good 1..
bcoz mana void is a exploding nuke...
when mana void is released it explode to surrounding area..
and u wan to make AM can only kill one hero using AM ulti..

I made the AoE multiplier .1 less..... The main is still aoE, and if you want AoE rapage, go for Shadow Fiend, Crix or Enigma

Originally Posted by JohnnyBalboa

I can't believe i didn't post on this suggestion yet oO

Great approach to magina's problems...

Perfect buff to mana break... but i think you nerfed too much your previous suggestion... this "critical" only happens once per battle... 3x mana burn is too much (early game)... ok i agree... but 8% max mana reflects that in a 800 mana pool you are just burning more 64 mana... I believe that you could increase this percentage up to a 20% max mana ( lower than NA mana burn ).

Blink doens't need a change... not this one...

About Spell shield... amazing.. just amazing
you could add some kind of trigger to react when magina's life is under some point to release the shield ( like aba ult ). The numbers here are great


Mana void...the aditional damage is not in aoe right? With the mana break buff.. this chance is a bit too much...

And about the general remake: Does spell shield store mana from death ward negative regen? Does it stack with pipe? You could add a tip on spell shield to give information about how much mana is stored ( like doom )

Nice idea overall

Thanks for the great input, really, thanks alot. Im convinced, blink will remain old still, but i will rescale it a bit. About shield, i belive that it wont have an autocast at specific HP, but maybe you could activate Autocast to make it activate as soon as you have 50% of max mana stored?

Now, a normal INT hero has around 80-100 INT lategame, so they have a base off around 1190-1450 manapool. Now realise that you rush in, burning away 80 of their mana with the bonus, thus burning 144 mana total. Most INT heroes gain additional INT items, and its not unusual to have around 2k mana, thus causing a 220 manaburn at the first hit, that is much lategame. 20% would be overpowered, and i think that it still is an great orb, compared with his fast attackspeed. BUT i will remake it a bit, have a look again. Will add some more notes, thanks again.

Originally Posted by snhades

mana break is the same i saw in Heroes of Newerth i think (check Magebane), but still good

Is it, really? I have no memory of that, and sadly i gotta say that i play HoN a bit... No, then they have stolen my idea!

Originally Posted by radianceJR

i agreed with the others accept the blink.Cause the blink does not really need to be tweaked

Thanks for reply, blink changed back again.

Originally Posted by Lightning_Fate

this...

Same as above

Thanks all, im tweaking the skills a bit atm.