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you should give some info what role u want him to fill..
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Well, Intelligence based tank, but to be able to have some alternative roles if that possition is filled at the team,
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baneeee
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Did u even read my post? thats ur comment? that bane is a tank? what if told u he is a pusher? or hero killer? you would list all pushers and hero killers here? Anyway If bane is a tank then, this is a second one with much different unique skills and play style.
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meh, i just dont like him. the skills have weak synergy, wont work for gameplay (like the demon thing...) and his role is very similiar to bane.
im sorry, i just dont think there is any potential here.
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You serious? His skills have weak synergy? funny.
His skills have perfect synergy every single one of them, SPECIALLY demon, heck 2 out of the 3 other skills was made around the demon! I'm surprised you didnt spot that, maybe u need to me to explain how all skills synergy perfectly to each other? His role is similar as many others, be a tank. Bane is a disabler tank, very different role than the one i suggest here. |
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At least use the template for easier reading....
Use Dark Kenshi's template I suggest...
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will do it at some point later, what u think about the hero?
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Hmm.. Ok I briefly read your hero...
First, I don't like any changing stats suggestion. Invoker is exception I think because it works completely different with others. 1st Skill : Nice skill but reduce the number to about 270. 300 damage for easy to hit skill is too much. 2nd SKill : Is this a simple summoning skill? If is it so, this is very imba. Infernal is still weaker than this 3rd Skill : This is basically Heartstopper Aura with hp draining. T-Down. Find better skill Ulti : Original but it works quite similar to first skill. I think you should consider changing it. Again, don't change stats to other skill. I won't give T-Up for it.
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First, a simple review.
Attributes: You want an Int tank, but you've got yourself something else. Your Agi gain is higher than your Str gain, so that's the major disadvantage in trying to tank. But maybe your skills will explain your stats growth, so I won't pass judgment so fast. Quote:
Vampiric Nova: What you mean is 400 AoE. AoE is described by the radius, not diameter. And I have no clue what you're trying to say here. What damage dealt? Null until full explanation is given. Demon Haunt: Too many abilities on one Demon, you could just make the Demon a separate hero. T-down. Presence of Evil: Too much like Heartstopper Aura, and this heals you? Imba. Number tweaking please. Null for now. Touch of Death: Do you know someone called Broodmother? So do you realise that you've made an even more imba version of her, especially with the autocast? T-down instantly. Dark Arts Expertise: Phantom Edge. NO. T-down. Overall: Broken skills. Verdict: Remake.
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Verdict: Death sentence, you LIED to me. :C
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1st You have close to none HP regen, while u do get some HP bonus from the demon you still have no HP regen and a heart wont help you that much as u are Int based with expensive skills. 2nd This can potentially be the reason why u get targeted as the tank, since its faction is similar to radiance, but with a catch as u will not do ANY DAMAGE if you dont get targeted at the first place ![]() Quote:
This, i didnt understand. It have nothing to do with Phantom Edge, but will enable Servant to be a good tank late game too. |
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It's not that. He just doesn't like the fact that your suggestion has no stats. Invoker fails, so I agree with him.
Only decent skill there is the first one because the others are either unoriginal or gamebreaking. EDIT: Don't ignore our criticism. If more then two people say something is broken, it's probably because it is.
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If anyone knows if what i suggest is impossible for Dota let me know to get on fixing it
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EDIT: If you say is broken, in what way? Tell me what needs fixing. Except from totally removing or changing skills ofc I can make 0.0001% for Presence of Evil or make 1%/2%/3% life drain for ulti if thats makes it balanced :P
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Actually, you can have 5 skills. Attribute Bonus is chosen by our engine, not built in.
However, your hero has some major problems. The high mana of his normal skills prevents him from having any effect until he has Bloodstone with exception of his passive. In order for him to get kills, he needs Bloodstone. But to get Bloodstone he will need kills because he doesn't have high farming potential. He has 3 skills that drain health and the demon does not have synergy with his tanking potential by just chasing around a hero. This hero seems to really be constructed from other heroes (Necrolyte mostly). He really needs a major rethink in his skills. There's some potential here but the all skills need to be partially remade. You need to stop being so defensive about your hero and assume things need "fixing". Numbers are the last step for a hero and the concept is first. We aren't perfect here and we can't help you if you aren't will to drop some of your skills. Just because you believe your idea is good, doesn't mean that it is. Most of us are willing to help you but you immediately showed that you are unwilling to cooperate with any of us so your suggestion might be beyond. I'm willing to give suggestions but not if you fight with me about it.
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It has the same uses as Phantom Edge - also known as forced synergy.
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