[ITEM]Ghostmail

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BLADEMAIL (2200)+ GHOST SCEPTER (1500) + RECIPE (300) = GHOSTMAIL (4000)

+25 damage
+10 armor
+20 intelligence
SPIRIT FORM (active) 25 mp, 25 cd

Spirit form:
turns yourself into an ethereal form that makes the wielder's invulnerable from physical attacks, but instead return any physical damage to the enemy. Last 3.5 sec.

So heres an example:
Troll Warlord is attacking techies. Then techies activate spirit form. Troll Warlord takes all damage he did to techies during the spirit form, while techies is not damaged at all.

Here is the rule:
-the wielder cannot attack any units while in sprit form.
-the wielder can still be attacked but not damaged while in spirit form. (deals 0 damage to the wielder).
-the wielder can still be damaged by spells while in spirit form.
-the wielder will take 33% extra damage from spells.
-DOES NOT RETURN DAMAGE FROM SPELLS.

PROS:
-extra armor, damage, and intelligence.
-protects from physical damage.

CONS:
-you cant attack while in spirit form
-you take extra damage from spell

NOTE: this is my 1st time posting an item idea so take it easy.

[Tomarzig]

I love It !

[xivdeusxiv]

Originally Posted by backspaceed

So heres an example:
Troll Warlord is attacking techies. Then techies activate spirit form. Troll Warlord takes all damage he did to techies during the spirit form, while techies is not damaged at all.

how can troll damage techies in spirit form? dagon?
A good Idea, but weird example

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Originally Posted by xivdeusxiv

how can troll damage techies in spirit form? dagon?
A good Idea, but weird example

he does not damage techies, but he attacks but deal no damage

[Fate Trap]

In spirit form No one can damage the caster and Blademail returns Magic damage so this looks weird ???

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Originally Posted by Lightning_Fate

In spirit form No one can damage the caster and Blademail returns Magic damage so this looks weird ???

added another rule to make it clearer:

-DOES NOT RETURN DAMAGE FROM SPELLS.

[Fate Trap]

But you're not using Blademail anymore... You're dropping "almost" every effect of Blademail?

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it basically only returns damage from physical attacks. The one thing that benefits is we are not damaged by the physical attacks

[xivdeusxiv]

1)ghostscepter turns you into ethereal form
2)when you are in ethereal form,you cannot attack and cannot be attacked, but you can use spells/can be targeted by spells
3)your ghostmail cannot return damage from spells



I don't find any logic.

[backspaceed]

Originally Posted by xivdeusxiv

1)ghostscepter turns you into ethereal form
2)when you are in ethereal form,you cannot attack and cannot be attacked, but you can use spells/can be targeted by spells
3)your ghostmail cannot return damage from spells



I don't find any logic.

the ethereal form from ghostmail, when activate, can still be attacked. but CANNOT BE DAMAGED by physical attacks. means the attacker deal 0 damage.. but when it comes to spell, you still takes damage.

[xivdeusxiv]

Originally Posted by backspaceed

the ethereal form from ghostmail, when activate, can still be attacked. but CANNOT BE DAMAGED by physical attacks. means the attacker deal 0 damage.. but when it comes to spell, you still takes damage.

Originally Posted by backspaceed

added another rule to make it clearer:

-DOES NOT RETURN DAMAGE FROM SPELLS.

+A unit in Ethereal form cannot be attacked.
+You used Blademail and Ghostscepter and didn't used each's function well.
+Blademail and Ghostscepter both have actives.

Conclusion: Should have used Ghostscepter only. Logic of this item "upgrade" failed, like upgrading boots to an activatable cloak.

Srry. T-d

[Mfunn]

ghost scepter lasts 4 seconds, this item last 3.5 seconds, where did the scepter stats did go ? too much armor (doubled !), and i dont see what skin it could do... bladed spirit form ?
dont change blademail into a avernus ult.. t-D

[Fydorian]

It's useless to me.

Blademail is for 3.5 secs of pseudo invulnerability.
Ghost scepter is for surviving physical damage/decent stats

Ghostmail is for...survivng physical damage/decent stats!

Just buy a ghost scepter!

Plus, both items, blademail and ghost scepter, have an individual niche, and don't need to be combined in any way.

[Tecktonik.]

nice idea ! keep it up

[Quiesce]

Originally Posted by Fydorian

It's useless to me.

Blademail is for 3.5 secs of pseudo invulnerability.
Ghost scepter is for surviving physical damage/decent stats

Ghostmail is for...survivng physical damage/decent stats!

Just buy a ghost scepter!

Plus, both items, blademail and ghost scepter, have an individual niche, and don't need to be combined in any way.

Isn't it the other way around...?

Anyway, T-Up to this.

[Mfunn]

dont change blademail into avernus ulti...
anybody with a brain wont attack somebody with a spirit form on..
blaidemail adventage: physical dmg hero can attack you at a hight cost : offensive
ghost scepter : physical dmg hero cant attack you : survivability
your item: avernus ult, only survivability, blademail effectiveness reduced to zero

[Baconnaise]

This is pure stupid.

[Roger Black]

basically its like 100% backtrack with blademail on for 3.5secs =.="
you can attack the wielder but he/she will not be damaged, instead all the damage is reflected to the attacker...nice concept...
both a survival and offensive item...but I don't think anyone will attack the wielder while this item is activated...basically gives no reason for the attacker to keep attack the wielder...
maybe make it like mana shield (50% damage still goes through)

[nwangXD]

The Ghost Scepter will be kinda useless because the blademail only works on this part due to return damage. And btw, can't do physical damage to the user, so the Blademail will be the useless one.

So, fail.

[AyUZ]

This is what I suggest,

Nothing happens i guess no effect or a better effect than being a ghost or kickass spikes around you, or ghostly kickass spikes around you, but make techies get damaged and if he's supposed to die because of damage, don't let him die, and after the duration, heal all the damage techies has recieved, so that anyone with somewhat a brain will not attack you if they see spikes, especially if they do OMGWTF damage,
this is good because it causes mindgames

oh yeah btw is the damage returned reduced by armor?