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Old 01-11-2010, 04:34 PM   #1
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Krashnakk the Wendigo-Shaman



Strength - 20 + 2.8
Agility - 15 + 1.0
Intelligence - 20 + 2.5

Learns: Icecrusher, Raging Stomp, Whirling Iceshield, Frozen World

Skillset:



Attack range of Meele
Movement speed of 280

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INFORMATIONS

Theme: Frost/Earth

Starting Hitpoints: 588
Starting Mana: 258
Starting Damage: 49-59
Starting Armor: 1
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SKILLS


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Icecrusher
With the knowledge of Icemagic, the Wendigo creates a frozen surface around him. Enemy units on the frozen surface are frozen. They cant move and atack. After 0.75/1.00/1.25/1.5 seconds the Wendigo crush on the ground, destroying the ice, deals dmg to enemies and slow their ms 20% for a short time.

Level 1 - Deals 50dmg and slow for 2sec. Ice and slow 420aoe.
Level 2 - Deals 110dmg and slow for 2sec. Ice and slow 420aoe.
Level 3 - Deals 170dmg and slow for 4sec. Ice and slow 420aoe.
Level 4 - Deals 230dmg and slow for 5sec. Ice and slow 420aoe.

Cooldown: 29
Manacost: 130
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Raging Stomp
The Wendigo stomps the ground. He slows all enemies around him and deals dmg to them. They run automatically away from the Wendigo (if able, they cant stop running until effect ends. Its like the opposite of Axes skill). The slow stacks with itself and Icecrusher.

Level 1 - Enemies run for 1sec. 5% as and ms slow for 10sec. Deals 20dmg.
Level 2 - Enemies run for 2sec. 8% as and ms slow for 10sec. Deals 40dmg.
Level 3 - Enemies run for 3sec. 11% as and ms slow for 10sec. Deals 60dmg.
Level 4 - Enemies run for 4sec. 14% as and ms slow for 10sec. Deals 80dmg.

Cooldown: 6
Manacost: 60/70/80/90
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Whirling Iceshield (passive)
Whenever the Wendigo cast a spell, if hes not atacked for 1/2/3/1 sec. after it, a Whirling Iceshield is created around the Wendigo. It stays for 12sec.
As long as a Whirling Iceshield is around the Wendigo, theres a 50% Chance to block dmg (dont stack with vanguard etc. but with itself!). If theres not enough mana, the shield cant be casted and created.
You can turn this passive ability off!

Level 1 - Block 30dmg.
Level 2 - Block 50dmg.
Level 3 - Block 70dmg.
Level 4 - Block 90dmg.

Cooldown: 18/14/10/6
Manacost: 15/25/35/35
Quote:
Frozen World
The Wendigo can choose a near area. With his icecontroll he freeze all the water in the air in this area. All (!) units (not the Wendigo) are frozen. Missiles in this area are frozen aswell. If someone or something (else than Wendigo and his missiles) cross this area hes frozen inside aswell. Frozen units loose mana and hp reg. as long as they are frozen. As long as the Wendigo stay in the frozen area, he gain (str./5) hp and mana reg. cause he feel so well in this cold area.

Level 1 - Last 3 seconds. Range: 400
Level 2 - Last 3.5 seconds. Range: 500
Level 3 - Last 4 seconds. Range: 600

Cooldown: 90/80/70
Manacost: 190
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[sorry for my bad english )
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:42 PM   #2
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Default Re: [Str] Wendigo-Shaman

Awesome icon and theme. Those X'es are extremely annoying and i dont like how 3rd skill goes from 2 to 5 mana per second drained in one lvl. Nobody would level it past 3.

Needs tweaks and general balances but the suggestion is fine

Good job.
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:21 PM   #3
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Default Re: [Str] Wendigo-Shaman

Thanks!
I know the X's are just crap but dont know how to explain it better in a short way. My english is not best, but i'll work at it
Edit: now i see what u mean.
but i think this skill is too strong at high level if i dont change drain from 2 to 5 dramatically. and hes has epic int. and int.gain. and the time is changed from 3 to 1 sec.
other opinions needed^^
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Old 01-13-2010, 04:58 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Orangina View Post
Thanks!
I know the X's are just crap but dont know how to explain it better in a short way.
What about you try:

Quote:
From:
"After X seconds[...]"

To:
"After 0.75/1/1.25/2.50 seconds[...]"
Sound quite better. Icefrog did the same thing with Enigma's Malefice.
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:14 AM   #5
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Default Re: [Str] Wendigo-Shaman

His ultimate is almost identical to Faceless Void's Chronosphere, with the differences that incoming missiles also freeze and victims lose regeneration. That aside, I think this could be a good hero.
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Old 01-13-2010, 02:41 PM   #6
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@Kanashimi: nice one! I will change that, ty

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His ultimate is almost identical to Faceless Void's Chronosphere, with the differences that incoming missiles also freeze and victims lose regeneration. That aside, I think this could be a good hero.
mhm yeah thats maybe a problem, but there are many identical skills at dota (ultis as well, like lina and lion). do u think i should change it completly/a bit? Cause his ultimate is just important for him.

Thanks for feedback!
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:32 PM   #7
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Default Re: [Str] Wendigo-Shaman

Jeah, finaly a Wendigo
Manashield is a bit confusing, but i am sure it will be a nice mindegame tool.
Frozen World... sounds a bit like voidulti, but i like the concept.
Damage for spells are good balanced imo.
Nice Hero T-up!
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Default Re: [Str] Wendigo-Shaman

interesting hero with very interesting synergy

Normally i review each skill but i'm in a hurry and i will only write something about whirlwind cause it's the only skill i think could use rework.

The concept is awesome and the synergy with his other skills is also awesome. However wasting mana per second? That's... not good. Either totally remove it or... i don't know, make it a sort of a mana shield which reduces dmg by ... say... 20% but each hit you lose... say... 20 mana (fixed amount) .

T-up anyway
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:16 PM   #9
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Default Re: [Str] Wendigo-Shaman

Nice that u like it^^

@shield: cause many people dont like the manadrain idea, i will change it to something like a manacost.
For example: Whenever the shield is created, the Wendigo lose 45/35/25/15 mana. If he has not enough mana, the shield cant be created.
Is that better? A normal manashield would be boring, i like passives who work in this way (jakiros, gondars etc.). And the synergies dont work if i change it too much. But i think any way of losed mana is needed, for flavour and cause he has a big mana pool for a Str.Hero.
And he just need a passive skill, hes a Str. Hero :P
Any other ideas?

Little reworked version:
Quote:
Whirling Iceshield (passive)
Whenever the Wendigo cast a spell, if hes not atacked for 1/2/3/1 sec. after it, a Whirling Iceshield is created around the Wendigo. It stays for 12sec.
As long as a Whirling Iceshield is around the Wendigo, theres a 50% Chance to block dmg (dont stack with vanguard etc. but with itself!). If theres not enough mana, the shield cant be casted and created.
You can turn this passive ability off!

Level 1 - Block 30dmg.
Level 2 - Block 50dmg.
Level 3 - Block 70dmg.
Level 4 - Block 90dmg.

Cooldown: 18/14/10/6
Manacost: 15/25/35/35
comments needed! ty
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Old 01-17-2010, 05:54 PM   #10
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Default Re: [Str] Wendigo-Shaman

any thoughts?
should i change ulti`maybe?
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