Developer's Blog
Register Low Fi Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-17-2010, 05:43 AM   #1
Mystique-
Member
 
Mystique-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 822
Mystique- is offline

Default [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!


Recent changes:
  • Added 2 screenshots by Zirath.
  • Added 2 new alternative neutral-hero summoning structures.
  • Added new neutral tavern possibility: Alter of Depths(Naga)
  • Added 3 new screenshots (by me! ). I used a DotA terrain template available : http://www.playdota.com/forums/152417/dota-terrain/

This is a suggestion for changing the hero-tavern structure and layout. It may take a little while getting used to the visual change with the hero-taverns, but I believe the change is worth it.

Please take the time to read everything in order to understand this suggestion!

Currently, all 3 factions [ Sentinel, Scourge, Neutral ] have the same type of tavern: The Neutral Tavern, which is what all 9 taverns right now are based off of. I feel this isn't suitable and that there are more appropriate taverns for the Sentinel and Scourge.

Therefore, I suggest that 2 alters be used in place -
Sentinel use:
Scourge use:

Then, I suggest that
Neutrals use:ororor



I feel these new hero-summoning structures helps better to clearly indicate and visually enhance which type of heroes are being picked.


SCREENSHOTS:

The following are 3 screenshots: the first two depict 2 versions of a naga alter as the neutral "tavern". The third one uses a Mercenary Camp.
Take note of the rune colors and variation in placement of hero structures







I would like to thank Zirath for taking the time to create a test-map and taking the following 2 screenshots! Personally, I do see how the neutral taverns may be a little dull when compared to the alters .
Also note that the rune colors represent the primary attribute of the tavern closest to it!

IN THE FOLLOWING 2 SCREENSHOTS -
The triangular arrangement of hero-summoning structures and the hero-icon orderings within these structures are the same.

However, the difference would be:
  • The left side of the "triangle" would be the 3 Sentinel Altars( 1 STR, 1 AGI, 1 INT) that summon Sentinel heroes.
  • The right side of the "triangle" would be the 3 Scourge Altars( 1 STR, 1 AGI, 1 INT) that summon Scourge heroes.
  • The bottom side of the "triangle" would be the 3 neutral taverns/ alters/mercenary camps ( 1 STR, 1 AGI, 1 INT) that summon neutral heroes.
  • ULTIMATELY: The color scheme and ordering of the alters/taverns can be changed easily and accordingly.







Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	altarofelders.gif
Views:	1810
Size:	11.2 KB
ID:	9655   Click image for larger version

Name:	altarofdarkness.gif
Views:	1816
Size:	15.3 KB
ID:	9656   Click image for larger version

Name:	tavern.gif
Views:	1817
Size:	10.5 KB
ID:	9657   Click image for larger version

Name:	altarofstorms.gif
Views:	1717
Size:	22.2 KB
ID:	9678   Click image for larger version

Name:	taverns1.jpg
Views:	1693
Size:	168.6 KB
ID:	9679  

Click image for larger version

Name:	taverns2.jpg
Views:	1720
Size:	167.9 KB
ID:	9680   Click image for larger version

Name:	mercenarycamp.gif
Views:	1667
Size:	17.7 KB
ID:	9696   Click image for larger version

Name:	screen-capture.png
Views:	1459
Size:	719.3 KB
ID:	9829   Click image for larger version

Name:	screen-capture-3.png
Views:	1414
Size:	819.6 KB
ID:	9835   Click image for larger version

Name:	screencapture.png
Views:	1447
Size:	954.8 KB
ID:	9836  

  Reply With Quote
Last edited by Mystique-; 01-20-2010 at 03:04 AM.
Old 01-17-2010, 05:59 AM   #2
Null-
Member
 
Null-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Russia
Posts: 180
Blog Entries: 1
Send a message via ICQ to Null-
Null- is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

Very nice idea But how to be with multi-coloured taverns?? After all the sense of taverns consists in their colour scheme...
__________________

Rhasta - Icon Voodoo
Vladmirs - Info and little remake
Team Kill - Text and sound
Butcher and Silencer - Text on icon
Wraith Band - New icon and new name
Ethereal Blade - New icon
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 06:07 AM   #3
L|Enzo
Member
 
L|Enzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,040
Blog Entries: 4
L|Enzo is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

good idea, the only drawback is that the tavern looks too plain compared to the other twos
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 06:36 AM   #4
Roger Black
Member
 
Roger Black's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ipoh, Perak, Malaysia
Posts: 6,316
Send a message via Skype™ to Roger Black
Roger Black is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

I bet the neutral tavern heroes will be pissed
perhaps find a bit epic tavern for the neutral as well?
t-up on the suggestion tho
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 06:53 AM   #5
Dark Mizuki
Member
 
Dark Mizuki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 860
Dark Mizuki is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

Can you find the Altar of the Tides? It's a rare sight and it might be a good Neutral altar, just change it's name. Altar of the Storms is awesome too.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 07:21 AM   #6
Ez_Mystery
Member
 
Ez_Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Wolf Den
Posts: 2,686
Blog Entries: 4
Send a message via Yahoo to Ez_Mystery
Ez_Mystery is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

for sentinel and scourge, but not for neutrals, taverns won't fit with the altars

i suggest this for neutrals



(Created by debode)
__________________


^ Signatures Collection ^
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 07:37 AM   #7
Fate Trap
Member
 
Fate Trap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Where I live.
Posts: 7,279
Blog Entries: 2
Fate Trap is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

@OP
T-up!
@Ez_Mystery T-Down..
__________________


Click to see my portfolio.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 10:26 AM   #8
dominator02
Member
 
dominator02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Philippines
Posts: 7,762
dominator02 is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

to the first post and to Ez_Mystery.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 10:40 AM   #9
virtviuz
Member
 
virtviuz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: philippines
Posts: 536
Blog Entries: 2
virtviuz is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

This can be used for a neutral throne. Its an in-game doodad and is called hellscream throne. Since the thrones will just stand there and would just wait for someone to click them, its lack of animation won't be a problem. The only problem thou is it doesn't have any portrait.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ThroneNeutral.PNG
Views:	1564
Size:	84.5 KB
ID:	9663  
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 10:58 AM   #10
Roger Black
Member
 
Roger Black's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ipoh, Perak, Malaysia
Posts: 6,316
Send a message via Skype™ to Roger Black
Roger Black is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

^ looks kinda evil to be used as neutral tavern >.<"
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 11:22 AM   #11
dominator02
Member
 
dominator02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Philippines
Posts: 7,762
dominator02 is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

Quote:
Originally Posted by virtviuz View Post
This can be used for a neutral throne. Its an in-game doodad and is called hellscream throne. Since the thrones will just stand there and would just wait for someone to click them, its lack of animation won't be a problem. The only problem thou is it doesn't have any portrait.
Does it have Portrait?
Looks too evil.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 11:25 AM   #12
backspaceed
Member
 
backspaceed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Singapore Truly
Posts: 372
backspaceed is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

T-UP on the idea.. but neutrals need a real altar
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 01:19 PM   #13
ResQ
Member
 
ResQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 4,567
Blog Entries: 2
Guide Writer Award 
ResQ is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

Very good suggestion. Sometimes even I get confused by the taverns.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 01:24 PM   #14
Hero Hunter
Member
 
Hero Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 980
Hero Hunter is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leak- View Post
Wow, excellent suggestion. T-up.
  Reply With Quote
Last edited by Hero Hunter; 01-17-2010 at 04:33 PM.
Old 01-17-2010, 02:52 PM   #15
L|Enzo
Member
 
L|Enzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,040
Blog Entries: 4
L|Enzo is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

Here is a quick input, the structure used for Neutrals is Draenei Chieftain's Hut

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	01.jpg
Views:	1439
Size:	201.4 KB
ID:	9676  
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 03:07 PM   #16
Tomarzig
Member
 
Tomarzig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Thailand
Posts: 927
Tomarzig is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

ู^^

Good idea.

T -Up !!!
__________________
Predictions For The Next Hero
Chaos Knight, Phantom Assassin, Luna, Ogre Magi
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 03:50 PM   #17
Realitey
Member
 
Realitey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: United Arab Emirates
Posts: 506
Blog Entries: 3
Realitey is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

Great Suggestion T-Up !
__________________
Suggestions
Lich Aghanim Scepter Animation - Ice Spirits !! No Way !!
Medalion of Courage - Upgradable Basic Item
Ravage Cosmetics - Completing the Water theme !
Heat Seeking Missile & Rocket Flare Explosion Animation - Explosions HOT From the OVEN !
Song of The Siren Sound Effect - Unique Suggestion
Smoke Screen Visual Effect - Give The Smoke Screen Some Flavor
---------------------------------------------------
Click Here For Implemented & Old Suggestions
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 03:56 PM   #18
Mystique-
Member
 
Mystique-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 822
Mystique- is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

Added Zirath's screenshots
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 05:49 PM   #19
Black.Lotus
Member
 
Black.Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: The World
Posts: 4,626
Blog Entries: 1
Black.Lotus is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

Looks ugly!! T-DOWN!!
__________________



Don't like the Switch Mode? Join this group: <Click>
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 05:50 PM   #20
ResQ
Member
 
ResQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 4,567
Blog Entries: 2
Guide Writer Award 
ResQ is offline
Default Re: [HERO-TAVERN] Structure Revamp!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black.Lotus View Post
Looks ugly!! T-DOWN!!
Okay, we just ignore him. The suggestion is perfect, you are ugly

sorry bout that but this guy is annoying..
  Reply With Quote
Reply
  Defense of the Ancients Suggestions Visuals


Forum Jump

Thread Tools